By Charles Coulter, Kansas City Star Editorial Board
So the Rev. Jeremiah Wright made comments that some portray as hate-filled and anti-American.
So what? I think that's covered by something called the First Amendment.
And some want Barack Obama to distance himself even further from his spiritual mentor. Why?
Rev. Wright has not said anything that has not been said or is not being said in bars, poolrooms, barber shops, hair salons or anywhere more than three black people gather.
And don't fool yourself. It's not just the black urban poor, those without jobs, education or hope, who express these comments. Many members of the black middle class have the same sense of history; the same sense of anger.
And it ain't illegal to be angry.
Rev. Wright is not the first black minister to condemn this country for its racist practices.
The Rev. Martin Luther King did more than proclaim a dream. He called out America for what it did and was doing to people of color all over the world (slavery, discrimination, the Vietnam War). He did it in a more sophiscated way, but his message was the same.
But Rev. King did not call for black people to burn the flag, to destroy property, to kill white people or to leave the country. And, as far as I can determine, NEITHER HAS REV. WRIGHT.
Rev. Wright is not leading nor advocating a revolution. He is just venting, and in many ways, preaching to the choir. Shouldn't a man or woman be judged more by his or her actions?
Sen. Obama has done nothing to indicate
he is anti-American. In fact, his whole life is a testament to the American Dream.
And if Sen. Obama were to totally distance himself from every black person over the age of 30 who has at one time or another said or thought God damn America, he probably could hold his next campaign rally in a phone booth.
If you don't like Obama, fine. If you don't like his policies, fine. But let's not waste any more time over a made-up issue.
Let's get back to the issue of how to make this country a success for all of its people -- black and white, rich and poor, woman and man.
Charles Coulter is Opinion Page Editor for The Kansas City Star









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Wright and Barak
If Barak Obama "should have left" Reverend Wright's church "long ago," then I submit that all Catholics should have leapt up and stormed out of the cathedrals the very minute they heard that their priesthood was shifting, hiding, and coddling child molesters for years, probably centuries! I submit that everytime Billy Graham, Jerry Falwell, Charles Colson or any number of mouthy evangelical preachers OPENLY CONDEMNS America for gays, legal abortion, gun control, immigration and any number of other "atrocities;" then, their followers should be leaping up and flinging wide the doors of the churches to escape the litany of hate. Does anyone see the hypocrisy besides me?
Debra Singer-Hanson, Midwest Voices 2006
Den party
We as black wont fellow the Dem Party To hell
If hillary mess it up so bad that John McCain win's they can have the party and Black people dont need the party or a president a good congress man will do.
Rev. Jeremiah Wright....Obama's Mentor
Ralph Waldo Emerson wrote...."What you are stands over you the while, and thunders so that I cannot hear what you say to the contrary."
Just think about it. Wright or Wrong.
FIRST AMENDMENT?
What happened to Don Imus' first amendment rights when black leaders demanded he be fired by CBS for his racial remarks? Though disgusting, Imus' remarks didn't begin to rise to the level of the outrageous sermons by Rev. Wright. What if this situation were reversed, & Hillary, or even more so, John McCain attended a church where the pastor made similar racial slurs, & outright lies about black people? Can there be any doubt that Hillary or McCain's presidential bid would be all done? Think, Mr. Coulter, then you'll understand why people are so angry about this.
Mr. Coulter
You are a racist. Pure and simple. If you see no problem with Jeremiah Wright's comments, then you are one of those liberal, hypocritical racists. Did you feel the same way when Don Imus made his stupid comment? Did you feel this way when Trent Lott praised the late Senator Thurmond? Yes, this is a different situation. Senator Obama wants to lead the most powerful nation in the history of mankind. If he doesn't see any problem with Wright's comments, then ALL Americans of ALL colors should and will continue to question his judgment. As far as your judgment, you are just an insignificant liberal, racist, yes, I said RACIST journalist.
ridiculous
Obama attends Muslim schools, admits abusing cocaine, and puts someone like this on his advisory comittee? When you know how to give a great speech, its scary how blinded people become... Sad is that people beleive him, when in reality he is only telling people what they want to hear despite having no intention of following through (See his NAFTA memo to Cananda, or his own staff admitting we won't be able to get troups out in a year)...
"Just Venting" . . .
Do you get paid to write such insidious articles?
As for Obama's feel sorry for me speech
He lied, he's immature, he's wrong for defending what is clearly wrong in Rev. J. Wrights sermons, he blames everyone, his speech clearly blames America.
We learn history in school for those of us who attend or attended. His speech was not a new revelation but based on history. Black people always want to talk progress but cannot stop living in the past. He did not take any responsibility for his bad choice.
As for you, please do not show up on anyone else's TV/News Program unless you have been prepped beforehand. You looked absolutely foolish.
Barack Obama's Pastor
I agree Rev. Wright's comments were incendiary, but I don't understand the outrage. With nearly 4,000 of our troops killed in Iraq, why no outrage about president Bush joking and doing skits about no weapons of mass destruction found in Iraq? Why no outrage about president Bush joking and doing skits about Iraq having nothing to do with 9/11? Why no outrage about president Bush joking and doing skits about Saddam Husein having no affiliation with Al Qeada. I find nothing funny about our troops dying for lies Bush told our country. Those are the things people should be outraged about. I challenge anyone to show anything Rev. Wright said was untrue.
Obama's Big Lie
As Barack Obama attempts to justify his association with Jeremiah Wright, I’m struck by his facility to misrepresent American history. But unlike his fellow race-baiters, Obama blames ALL white Americans for the historic misdeeds that were exclusively promoted by the Democrat Party. For guilt-ridden white Americans, our only chance for salvation comes from our admission to the racist acts and policies that were created, promoted, and enforced by the Democrat Party.
Like millions of other Americans, I feel no personal shame for the legacy of racism and slavery because my ancestors fought and died to END slavery in America. They were all Republicans.
But to appreciate Obama’s skilled misrepresentation, one must reexamine American History before they read his speech.
Democrats, Slavery, and Jim Crow
Contrary to Obama’s version of our Declaration of Independence, the signatories were divided by states that supported slavery and those that did not. Unless the opponents of slavery accepted the practice within slave states, pro-slavery Congressmen (New York, Pennsylvania) would not have signed the Declaration of Independence. And without unanimous agreement, the United States could not have waged a successful war for independence against the British.
While this compromise perpetuated slavery for another sixty years, it gave birth to the country that outlawed the practice of slavery throughout the Western World – the same country that continues to promote freedom throughout the world today. It would have been pointless to fight a civil war before establishing our American sovereignty.
When the American Revolution ended in 1789, Congress passed (and George Washington signed) a law (Art.6) stating that no territory could become a state if it allowed slavery.
Four years later, Thomas Jefferson formed the Democrat Party. By 1808, Congress abolished the slave trade in America although it was difficult to enforce in the Democrat-controlled slave states until imposed by Republicans during the Civil War. When Democrats gained control of Congress in 1818, they used their majority to undo these anti-slavery decisions. The Democrat Party passed the Missouri Compromise (1820), institutionalizing slavery in half of the territories. During the next thirty years, Democrats passed multiple laws promoting and protecting slavery, culminating in 1850 with the Fugitive Slave Law, which ended all rights to jury trials, representation, and habeas corpus for blacks (even free men) who were falsely accused of being escaped slaves. Four years later, Democrats passed the Kansas-Nebraska Act that exceeded the limits of the Missouri Compromise by opening up new territories to slavery.
In 1854, the Republican Party was formed specifically to end slavery. Six of the nine planks in their fledgling platform statement deal with civil rights issues. And even after millions of Republicans volunteered to fight and die to end slavery, Democrats opposed every effort to codify and enforce civil rights in America.
From 1866 to 1875, the Republican Congress passed 19 civil rights laws, including the 14th and 15th Amendments that established citizenship for all and the right to vote for all people, regardless of race, color, or previous condition of servitude. Democrats oppose them all and, when they took control of the House, Democrats established Jim Crow laws and repealed all civil rights legislation passed by the Republicans. Any laws or amendments they could not repeal they skirted with poll taxes and literacy tests. Democrats controlled the black vote in the Solid South with this simple admonition – vote Democrat or we’ll burn down your home and kill your family. This was not a racist white-on-black practice, but a Democrat-on-black practice.
Obama’s Big Lie
Hillary supporters dare not contradict Obama’s Big Lie (white racism) because they’ve spent decades creating and promoting it. Since Brown v. Board of Education (1954), Democrats have used public schools, the media, and race baiters to convince Americans that 1) white children and their parents are responsible for the legacy of slavery and racism in America and 2) they will also grow up to be racists unless they help the Democrat Party end white racism (along with other pseudo-educational subjects like collective bargaining, immigration rights, gay rights, and global warming). Like affirmative action, Obama has redirected the Big Lie from Republicans onto white Democrats, who are now forced to choose between the rich white Democrat and the black messiah who will forgive us of our burdensome white guilt.
Obama’s oratory skills notwithstanding, no one corroborates his unsuitability as president more than his mentor and fellow race-baiter Jeremiah Wright. Whether the Obama Family was seated on a given day or not, no one can deny Wright’s enthusiastic congregation or the black talking heads that continue to endorse the Obama/Wright worldview. White Democrats like Chris Dodd and Charles Schumer refuse to discuss it, imploring us to MOVE ON, vernacular for, You’ve caught me in an indefensible position and I want to escape from my responsibility as your elected representative.
Because Obama is not the progeny of slavery or white racism, he bought his own authenticity by joining the most poisonous pseudo-church in Chicago. While the Harvard-educated politician and his affirmative action wife lent credibility to the church, Wright bestowed black authenticity to Obama. But like other fraud schemes, someone always gets stuck with the bag; which is why white Democrats cannot attack Obama without attacking their own mythology.
Obama has defined this racial fraud like no one before him. To be authentically black, must we accept that the United States deserved the attacks of 9/11? What about über-supporter Oprah Winfrey? To be authentically black, must she accept that the US government developed the AIDS virus to kill black people?
I’m not saying that Republicans don’t say whacky things, but I don’t have to accept ex-Democrat David Duke’s venom to be authentically white – even if my Mom’s Brazilian and my children are brown.
Although Democrats have a unique opportunity to free themselves from the tired rhetoric of America’s race-baiters, it’s hard to imagine how they will reform themselves without admitting to their institutional guilt. I suspect that, to most Democrats, buying into Barack Obama’s hallucinogenic lie will be much easier than accepting the truth about themselves.
Wright and Obama
I can't decide which of the two are more offensive, the comments made by Obama's pastor or your editorial.
The anti-American remarks do not belong in a church.
I am proud to be an American. If people are so filled with hate for this wonderful country they can certainly move to another country, no one would stand in the way.
wright
Just watched you on O'Reilly. You sounded like an idiot. Star editorial board? No wonder your profession is a joke and your paper sucks. You have no grasp how the reverend's comments, with his "leadership" role in the community, were irresponsible and inflammatory. He also strikes me as not being very bright, like yourself.
Thank you Charles...
For sharing your informed perspective. You have shown the pretenders for what they are. Thanks for your courage and sense of history.
When we gather...
It is hard to believe some have defended actions which should not be defended. Reverend (said in jest) Wright fosters hate, pure and simple. And how is his inflammatory speech different than those of violent fundamentalist Muslims? And really, it does not matter what they hate? Hate is hate after all, and not appropriate for church members, especially children.
And what must we now think of Senator Obama? He has listened to this hate for 20 years. He has invited it into his home and into his life. Given the nature of the recorded sermons, does Senator Obama really feel we believe him when he says he did not hear hate being spoken in Reverend Wright’s Church?
Upon his death, I watched as my Father was honorably draped under an American flag. So I was insulted by Senator. Obama’s refusal to wear an American Flag on his lapel. But because he asked for the benefit of doubt, I supported him still.
When Mrs. Obama said that she was proud of her country, “for the first time.” It was very insulting. But again when Senator Obama asked for the benefit of doubt, I supported him still.
Now Senator Obamas own pastor, his friend, his mentor, and his spiritual leader openly spews hate, assails my love of country, and promotes anti white sentiment. And again Senator Obama asks for the benefit of doubt?
We, I, most of us who are white, saw Senator Obama as the man we wanted him to be. We were wrong, but thank God, there is time to fix it. I will no longer support Senator Obama.
When whites gather, in groups of three of more, in bars or barbershops, our conversation is not about “Goddamn America” or “The US of KKKA, or really about Reverend Wright. What we are now talking about is Hillary Clinton, go girl!.
Read History, and then ...
... you will agree with much of what Rev. Wright said.
The most ridiculous part of all of this "scandal" is that much of what Wright says reflects the *majority* world public opinion. Wake up Americans -- most people in the rest of the world do not think highly of the US (or at least its gov't).
For instance:
"The US government has been inflicting terror on the people of Palestine"? Duh. (Israel, largest recipient of US aid, is currently bombing the citizens of already impoverished Gaza indiscriminately.)
"Black people should say God D." to a country that was built on 400 years of their ancestors' enslaved labor and 100 more of segregation and racist southern terror, in which Black male unemployment in major cities is currently 50%, and in which police officers almost routinely shoot young unarmed men of color with impunity? Duh.
Moreover, the US funded Al Qaeda when they were battling the Russians in the 70s. So yes, the chickens very directly came home to roost on 9-11.
Finally, read the history of the systematic rape, torture and village-buring the US engaged in in Vietnam, or the brutalities of any of the many dictatorships that "our" gov't has armed over the years (Chile y etc) ...all the way up to the 10 years of US sanctions and 5 years of war that have left literally millions of Iraqis dead... and you too will have some less-than-kind things to say about "America."
Such things are not "hate-filled comments." They are simply the truth. They don't reflect badly upon "all americans" but rather upon the people who runs this country. I'd vote for anyone who acknowledged the US's internal and external crimes, and promised to seriously right them.
Obama's Rev
So the STAR's editorialist says of Rev. Wright's diatribes that: "some portray as hate-filled and anti-American." I'm just mildly curious, Mr. Coulter, how do you suggest that an American can listen to Wright scream "God Damn America" and suggest that we deserved the 9/11 attacks and NOT think is sounds a bit hate-filled? (I rarely request that God damn someone with whom I'm not a bit angry.)
As for not wondering about Obama's 20-year association with this man, seems a reasonable question to me. If my pastor engaged in such ravings, I'd find another church rather quickly.
I'll wager that if a conservative candidate attended KKK meetings for 20 years and had a Klan leader preside at his wedding you might be singing a different tune.
Enough attacks on Obama
Salute to you, Chuck!!! It takes guts to speak your mind in a Midwest Paper like you have done. Why is Obama responsible for his preacher's thinkings? Is any of the church goers in the US going to be responsible for the mind set of some of the pedophile church leaders in all denominations across this country? Americans need to separate church and state. History has taught us a very valuable lesson with the role of the Church in Middle Age Europe. Judge and vote the candidate for his merits not for where he goes to worship God. Obama's life is the ultimate American dream-- just like mine. I am a 54 years old female immigrant who has put myself through school and practiced medicine for the last 24 years in my new homeland. I relate, respect and admire Obama to reach for the opportunities which are ONLY offered in this land of opportunites: THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
obama a liar
Barack Obama is a Liar
To all
Obama speech ,,,, Not sure if you caught it, Not only did Obama,,, Refuses to denounce him,, but even More,, He say in his own words,,,
Barack Obama was in church when Jeremiah Wright,, was spewing Anti-American, Racist ism ,,,, Those were his own words,,, barack was there
After going on keith Oberman ,Show obama said he would denounce that if he heard that language he would leave and not tolerate it , and denounce it
After he went on MSNBC,, he went on FOX CNN ABC< all the news station saying he was never there,,, in his church when he said these things,,
But Now today during his speech,,He states flat out Say's HE was there,,, Last week Barack Obama Lied,, went on all the news stations, and Lied,,
But your not reporting that,,,, You can rest assure,,, cnn ,,, Fox , ABC,,, Msnbc,, are getting more on this ,,, they will be reporting on this, and we will see
If you chose to report, Obama Lying on tv,,, If this was Hilary clinton lying and caught lying on all the new station,,, you can be sure,, you would talk about it every hour
people will be on your station debating this,,,, people analysing , if it is hilary clinton but it was not her it was Barack Obama, ,, it bad enought He lied, about being in church
With Jeremiah Write, when he said these anti american ,,,,,and still refuse to denounce him...all the news agency want to do is speak on how good his speech was,
Not that he lied,,, Last week on all the news agency ,, He was never there today in how own speech He say I was there,,,,should play all Obama videos from last week
stating he was not there,,, or heard any of the anti-american Jeremiah Write, said in his churc then play his speech today saying he was there and he did hear him in church and refuse to denounce Jeremiah Wright,,,,
reply to pomdl
First of all, Reverend Wright openly discussed his hateful ideas and views, do you think a decent person would remain a 20 year member of any church, if the church leader sometimes liked to OPENLY discuss their pedophilia views? If someone was applying for a Teaching position who attended this kind of church and not only had remained a member for 20 years, but also looked to the church leader as a mentor,inspiration and spiritual adviser, do you think parents would really want that person hired?
excuses, excuses
I'm not attacking Rev. Wright. Distasteful as his racist, misogynist, anti-Semitic and anti-American statements may be to me (and to much of the nation), I do understand that he has a right to express those views.
However, I absolutely disagree that his long term association and prominent place in Barack Obama's life should not be held up to the light.
Barack Obama showed horrible judgment by not distancing himself from Rev. Wright long ago. Instead of making clear that Wright's bigoted views didn't reflect his own, he brought him ever closer, donating to his church, making him a part of the Obama presidential campaign, using him as a sounding board and inspiration, being married by him, having him baptize his children, the list goes on. All of us are judged by the company we keep. Barack Obama has used terrible judgment, and then exasperated the problem by lying about it.
You can excuse this any way you like, but you can't change the fact that the Wright-Obama connection will be devastating for the Democratic Party’s chances come November.
You have to be kidding me..
The first Amendment may cover freedom of speech, but not when it's political based and done from the pulpit of a church, which does not pay taxes and is required to remain apolitical in order to receive nonprofit, tax-exempt status. Obama has listened to these hate-filled diatribes for the past 20 years. I'm sorry but if you cannot understand why many of us would be outraged that a Candidate for POTUS would have someone like Wright,who seems to like blaming white people for almost everything, as a mentor...they you haven't got a clue. It goes beyond just damning America as well, look at the comment he made about Natalee Holloway- "white girl from Alabama that 'gave it up' in some foreign country", this is Obama's mentor and spiritual adviser? OR how about the fact that this church awarded Luis Farrakhan, who they referred to as "A man who Epitomizes Greatness", with a lifetime achievement award for his "Commitment to Truth, Education and Leadership" does anyone need reminded of any of Farrakhan's hateful,racist remarks? This is the type of Truth, Education and Leadership this church, Obama's Church, feels deserves to be awarded?
Aman, Charles Coulter!
Obama is delivering a speech about all this on Tuesday, the 18th. If he is the person I feel he is, it will be one of the most important speeches to come from this entire campaign.
It may well be that by September of this year, after the conventions, America will finally face the complex issues of race as never before. Rev. Wright has stepped down, but his words still resonate with truth as they have for many decades.
We have only to review the entire PBS series, "Eyes on the Prize" to realize the vast lack of understanding that still plagues and torments the soul of our country. Yes, there have been many strides in bridging the divides between Blacks and Whites. Yet we continue relentlessly forward, failing to address the deeper context that Blacks in America are still haunted by a legacy from their forefathers, who were forced to lay down their freedoms and their very lives to establish the foundation on which commerce could grow and democracy be defined. (I have relatives who still live under the thundercloud of slavery’s reign, which exists even today—in little shack houses, with no electricity or plumbing—still living the terror-based custom of never making eye contact when addressing a White person for fear of harm, or even death.)
Barack and Michelle Obama are modern day heroes. People from all walks of life realize this. And for all our past failings to understand and respond to the times, they represent a new breed of “We the People”.
With a clarion call to unite, neighbor to neighbor, we face a new opportunity standing squarely before us, the American people--an opportunity ready to embrace us with arms of acceptance and forgiveness, knowing we will do better, that we will be better, together. “Yes we can!”
Ellison
Luke23,
Huh, yes Obama is a liberal, so am I. Nothing wrong with that. Reagan was a conservative, its in all the history books.
Carry on.
Luke 23: Liberals are racists and Anti-American?
So liberals are racists and anti-American?
These things are good to know.
Charles' view: Racism is OK
Chuck... So what you are telling me is that it would be no big deal if Clinton and McCain belonged to a White Supremists Church? Being a memember of a racist organization is OK...
We just need to move on to the issues! Earth to Chucky.... This is a big deal. Can we not assume that since Obama chose this church and pastor that he must largely share their views which are racists and anti-American?
Of course we can.
Obama lied. He was a member of this church for twenty years and tells America he had no idea Wright and church are racists and anti-American? Really?
So now we have a choice. Either Obama is a liar or he is stupid. My guess is he former (liar).
The candidte of Character, Change, Hope, and Uniter? .... Really... That kind of character, change, hope, and uniter we can surly do without.
He may well become the nominee of the Democrat party which tends to have a high tolerance for liars, pedophiles and the like. In the general McCain will beat him like a drum. Obama is going to make Mondales electoral vote look like a mountain.
Go Obama.....
RE: Enough! Attacks on Obama and Jeremiah Wright are ludicrous
ENOUGH! Attacks on America and her people are ludicrous. Unless of course the one attacking is mentally disordered with fuzzy thinking, misplaced guilt and a hateful, mean spirited heart. How could this minister of meanness be the main mentor of Barack H. Obama without his knowledge of the words spoken by Rev. Meanness over the past 20 years? Liar, liar, Obama's tongue's on fire.
Enough! Attacks on Obama and Jeremiah Wright are ludicrous
The first amendment protects expression from government restraint, not from criticism by private citizens. There is nothing wrong with judging a person by those with whom he chooses to associate. Obama knows this, which is why he is backing away from Wright. Obama's problem is that few believe him when he feigns astonishment at Wright's comments.
What an embarrassing column by Coulter!
So: racist comments and the spreading of hateful and divisive lies ("The US Government created AIDS to kill blacks"---slander, lies, and idiotic to boot) are acceptible if they are COMMON? Talk about a double standard. This isn't a First Amendment issue; surely Coulter isn't that ignorant. The Bill of Rights doesn't insulate a speaker from accountability. Blacks do not tolerate white racists who "vent," and they may NOT demand that whites accept "venting" black racists. Obama has based his campaign on a rejection of divisiveness, yet actively supported a "mentor" who preached divisiveness. This calls his integrity and sincerity legitimately into question, and trying to call this a "made-up issue" is either dishonest or astoundingly naive.
By the way, the Glen Campbell analogy is especially cretinous. If you are a Glen Campbell fan and he sings racist songs, then you have some explaining to do. THAT'S the correct analogy, you boob.
I want a President that serves everyone
Senator Byrd, as President Pro Tempore of the US Senate, is third in line for the President of the United States, right behind VP Cheney.
In 1942, 24-year-old Byrd joined the Ku Klux Klan (KKK), whose parades in Matoaka, West Virginia, he had witnessed in his childhood. He was unanimously elected Exalted Cyclops, or leader, of his local chapter.[4]
President Warren G. Harding, President Woodrow Wilson, President McKinley, President Calvin Coolidge, and President Harry S. Truman.
Other notable and downright important men were: President Warren G. Harding. He was actually sworn into the Ku Klux Klan in a Klan ceremony conducted inside the White House by Imperial Wizard Colonel Simmons.
Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black was a member of the KKK.
No one complained about these KKK members when they attained high office in the USA.
How do you think Jews, Blacks, Native Americans, or any person of color felt about this?
America the beautiful? Read your history. It hasn't changed that much. How do I know? I've been reading the comments today. You're still out there and I can smell you.
Onebear
If you are going to criticize at least know your facts.
It is the Speaker of the House that is next in line behind the Vice-President. It has been that way since 1947 and the presidential succession act. Byrd would fall in line behind Nancy Pelosi in the order of succession.
By the way Byrd is a democrat. Why do African Americans keep voting for a guy with his past? It seems as though certain people with questionable history concerning race have been acceptable by democrats as long as they are liberal. Conservatives will not be tolerated. If you are a liberal racist (Byrd) or liberal anti-Semite (Jesse Jackson) you’re okay but if you are a conservative senator (Trent Lott) who says some nice things to an old man (Strum Thurmond) on his last birthday you are branded a racist and drummed out of the senate.
Justice Hugo Black was also a democrat appointed to the Supreme Court by none other than the grand daddy of liberalism himself, FDR.
Ross Balano Midwest Voices 2008
republicrats
So, Wikipedia was wrong about the position of Byrd re: presidential succession. He's still a US Senator.
Apparently, you think I was talking about partisan politics. I don't see much difference between the two parties. This argument is about racism (White America vs. all of the rest of us)and American politics, and the hypocrisy of White conservatives freaking out over comments by a candidate's minister (that he may or may not agree with). Why don't you freak out over John C Hagee's relationship with and endorsement of John McCain? And , who says Blacks elected Senator Byrd?
I can't believe you trivialize Trent Lott (pillar of integrity)"saying some nice things" about Strom Thurmond (just and old man). Do you really think Blacks voted for either of these two known racists. Happy birthday to Strom Thurmond indeed.
It's easy for Whites to whine about reverse discrimination and want to move on and put the past behind us, but Whites had their hands firmly on the handle of the stick. We were on the pointed end of the stick. You're so biased you can't even understand why we're angry of distrustful. We just don't know how to stay in our place. Right? Uppity #$%^^&s!
Hussein Obama
After 20 years going to the same church and a close relationship with the pastor, there is no way Obama could ever know the true view of his pastor RIGHT?
Well thats what the liberals want you to believe.
Thats the same as Hillary attending KKK meetings and saying she doesn't agree with what they say.
HEY Liberal, you can do better than that Obama is a lier.
heyliberal is a pawn
For a person who doesn't even know how to spell "liar," you do pretty well at it.
Reverend Wright's "true" views are for seeking justice and fairness in what has been for him a racist society. He was a Marine, served his country and earned his right to expect his country to live up to its ideals.
I am not a "liberal" or a "conservative" and neither is Barack Obama. I voted for Ronald Reagan in 1980 and 1984 as I believed he was the best choice to put us back on the right path. I will vote for Barack Obama for the same reason.
For more on where you are coming from, read the excellent article in The Nation about how your right wing smear machine works. It's revealing and interesting.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20071112/hayes/5
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Obama a liberal?
Luke 23, you said that you're not a liberal and neither is Obama. Well-l-l-l-l-l, sir (borrowing from Jeff Foxworthy), if you can look at Obama's voting record and his near perfect grade from liberal groups . . . you just MIGHT be a liberal!
I like Glen Campbell music for 40 years so I endorse alcoholism?
Church is undeniably an important influence in family life and our choice of denomination and congregation says something about us.
But that kind of general affiliation doesn't automatically tie you to all the idividual sentiments and opinions ouside of church dogma belonging to and expressed by others in the church community, even the pastor.
Thats NICE
But Obama is saying after 20 years he had no idea that his pastor had those kind of views.
dear rogue
Thanks for proving my point.
Really?
I suppose, Mr. Coulter, that you're also going to tell me that I shouldn't care that Mr. Obama used "a little blow" when he could afford it...
Or that his church also gave Minister Farrakhan a Trumpeter award for "epitomizing greatness"... Minister Farrakhan, a man who has stated that white race was "made unrighteous by the god who made them."
Or that Mr. Obama has now stated he should not be tagged with "guilt by association. That Minister Wright's comments - comments from a man who married he and his wife, baptized his children and from a man who he has called his pastor for over 20 years - not be associated with him...
Or or that he has "regretted" purchasing land from political fundraiser Tony Rezko who is currently facing federal charges of attempted extortion, money laundering, and fraud...
Or that his wife has stated that it is only now, for first time in her adult life, that she is proud of her country...
What next, Mr. Coulter? What else should I ignore?
Charles, you need your ears and eyes cleaned out.
This is not a "made up" issue. Louis Farrakhan is not a made up issue. Jeremiah Wright's embrace of Farrakahn is not a made up issue. Having, at the very least, the insensitivity and at the very worst, the nastiness to blame the U.S. for the events of September 11 within a week of the attacks is not a made up issue, nor are the remarks "out of context" as this "church" claims. Putting "Africa first" is no place for a President of the United States to be. Assisting Africa, opening doors for positive developments in Africa, trying to help solve genocide in Africa, AIDS relief, economic relief, etc. .. all are appropriate, but putting Africa first as you keep kicking the U.S. around in your sermons? Why is this candidate still a member of this "church." Why didn't he walk out? How can we believe him when he says he was never there to hear this language? Does he get a "heads up" to be politically correct whenever a hate sermon is on the agenda? Obama showed himself to be a twister of the truth last week with his Friday afternoon/evening "explanation." His getting up the next day to invoke RFK didn't score any points with me either. He's behaving like an opportunist. He started distancing himself from Wright last year because he knew Wright was wrong. It doesn't take much to get up from the pew and walk out the door. Just courage. Obama hasn't got it. Don't excuse the Rev. Wrights of this world. You have no place with a great newspaper if you do.
Hatchet Job
Everyone should be used to these MSM special interest group hatchet jobs by now and recognize them for what they are. These special interest groups are Hillary supporters and they are trying to pit white against black so they can get their tyrant elected and continue to have war so they can sell their goods and finance it, continue to have the taxpayers subsidize illegal immigration and continue to support and protect Israel.
Nothing that Obama's aging minister said hasn't been discussed before. Our foreign policy has disenfranchised foreign populations and created hostility towards the U.S. around the world. We should anticipate that some militant groups will respond with violence. It says a lot about Obama if this is all they can come up with.
The major issues that are affecting us are not white on black. They are a failing economy hedged on oil, an illegal war, loss of freedom, and a failure to support our immigration laws. They affect all Americans no matter what their skin color. Don't let these special interest groups distract you with sex scandals and media created racial controversies.
Obama and Wright
G** D*** America.....just words.....Chickens coming home to roost......just words.....USKKK of A......just words. These are hate filled words in sermons that will forever be on the internet and affilitated with Senator Obama. He condoned this behavior by staying there for 20 years, marrying, and baptizing his children there. He financially supported these words (in 2006 he donated $ 22,500 to this church)!! You lead by example and this poor, poor leadership. We as a nation are sick of poor leadership. So you see.....words you cannot erase.....are just words. Tell that to the nation.........I agree that we need to talk about other things....but when He is asking us to "trust" his judgement...I cannot!
Attacks on Obama's preacher are NOT ludicrous
They may be ludicrous to gentiles from Kansas who voted for Obama in the primary -- oops! --- "caucus," that is. But they are not ludicrous to Jews who have borne the brunt of Louis Farrakhan's anti-semitism for decades. To see Farrakhan idolized by Rev. Wright in the panegyric he wrote in his parish magazine, Trumpet, is very scary. For Obama to be so closely associated with a person like Wright is frightening to a Jewish person -- even if you, Mr. Coulter from Kansas, think its appropriate to dismiss it as "ludicrous."
Obama rejected and denounced Farrakhan
Please read the excellent article featured in The Nation entitled "Smearing Obama." It is written by a Jewish supporter of Barack Obama and details the origins and lies being fostered by right wing hate groups. These people are willing to stoop to anything to protect their perceived interests. The Big Lie is alive and doing quite well in America.
Let the truth set you free.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080331/berman
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Obama's inexcusable bad judgement
I've heard tell that Wright's sermons may be mild compared to what's being preached in other black churches. If this is true it is indeed very scary. It may not be illegal to be angry but anger does nothing but incite acts of hatred. Acts of hatred are most often illegal. With the power and the influence that the black churches have over their congregations it makes me wonder how much urban crime and gang violence may actually derive it's roots from the continual spewing of hatred, victimhood and revenge propogandized from the black churches. It seems to me, kids raised in this kind of community spiritual environment simply wouldn't have much of a chance. The way I see it, it is a huge stepbackwards for America , civil rights and the non-violent teachings of Martin Luther King. Most of all it is very sad and even more scary is to see religion used to "program" a whole society of people to hatred and violence. How different is that to the religious extremists that fight throughout the world?
To give Obama a "pass" for having a "close" 20 year relationship with this man and this church is stupendously naive and enabling. Too bad there is not an "Alanon" for Obamamaniacs.