Dean Hubbard
Kansas City Star Editorial Advisory Panel Columnist
Tuesday’s (September 22) editorial in the Kansas City Star lamented the high dropout rate (20 percent) among freshmen at Kansas State University and suggested that raising admissions standards is the appropriate solution to the problem. I disagree.
Since KU is the example given, let’s review their policies and the qualifications of the students they admit. According to the editorial, Kansas public universities require “an ACT score of 21 or higher, a class rank in the top third of the graduating class, or a grade point average of 2.0 in the state’s pre-college curriculum.” On a 36 point scale, the average national composite ACT score is 21.1; the average Kansas composite score is 22. The average ACT score for students admitted to KU and the Med Center for 2008 was 24.8, well above the state and national average. So it is difficult to say that unmotivated or dumb students are the sole reason for the high rate of freshmen failure at KU.
I agree that the admissions standards in Kansas need fine tuning. First, it is difficult to interpret the significance of being in the top third of a class when so many students come from small schools. Also, a 2.0 in the state’s pre-college curriculum may, in fact, be below average. Nonetheless, I am troubled by the tendency to blame the customer and exclude tax-paying citizens from public institutions when there are steps that can be taken to improve freshmen success in college.
I spent 25 years at Northwest Missouri State University. In 1990 we had a first semester failure rate nearly identical to KU’s: ours was 18 percent, KU’s is 20 percent (our average ACT score was 21, lower than theirs). We made improving freshmen success a top priority and, as a consequence, in 2008 90 percent of freshmen successfully navigated their first semester and 73 percent returned the next fall, compared to 61 percent in 1990.
Students experience difficulty their first year in college for a variety of complex reasons. The editorial identified one major impediment to success: lack of adequate high school preparation capped off by a near useless senior year. There is a huge gap between the knowledge and skills required to succeed in high school and what is expected of college freshmen. There is also a yawning study habits gap coupled with a cultural gap. A good start for improving freshmen success would be for high school and college faculty and administrators to collaborate to narrow those gaps.
University professors also have a role to play in the classroom. Freshmen courses are rarely coordinated and little thought is given to requiring that the first courses a student enrolls in are freshmen friendly. For example, instead of weekly quizzes and tests with prompt feedback that allow students to adjust their study habits to match expectations, too many classes have high stakes midterm and final exams where, if a student blows it for whatever reason, it’s over. Peer (older) student tutoring and supplemental instruction in difficult courses have also proven to dramatically improve success rates.
Every teacher at all levels of education would rather teach bright, highly motivated students. Stay out of their way and do no harm and they will succeed. Unfortunately, there aren’t enough of them to go around. As a society, we cannot afford to jettison the rest. As a wise mentor once told me, “What you get is what you got, work with it!”









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You were right, not everyone can make it in college.
How about, I say no it is not fair to do this to the kids, but our lib mentality that noone should suffer failure merely perpetuates kids being setup for failure.
liberal mindset
Sorry, can't quite understand your last sentence: "I say no, and our you should feel good and not suffer any failure LIB mindset perpetuates this charade..."
You were right, not everyone can make it in college.
lib mindsets...
I said "America has this lib mind set that no one should be told you're not smart enough, so we just set them up for the inevitable failure. All we are doing is wasting money and destroying lives."
I firmly believe that parents should encourage their kids to "be all you can be", but not lie to them and set them up for failure, which is what libs do by dumbing down our schools and telling Mary or Johnny that just becuase you are a junior in high school and cannot read at grade level or perform basic math or write a coherent paper you can still go to college is wrong. Now, we have the big 0, the messiah, saying everyone goes to college. How riduculous is this? Some kids would be better-off getting a trade skill then going to and failing at college. Oh, and with the failure comes student loans to pay off. Is this fair to the kid? I say no, and our you should feel good and not suffer any failure LIB mindset perpetuates this charade...
Why is it
a liberal mindset to want your child to succeed? If success (and it is success in many minds) is to go to college and get a degree why is that a liberal mindset? If we take the words of many commentators at face value that anyone with enough motivation can succeed how is that liberal? I’m pretty much a conservative, but I still want all of my kids to go to college. For me that is a path to success in life but not the only path. I’ve encouraged all of my kids since they were small to strive to be the best that they can, and yes I’ve tied a college education into being the best that they can.
Is everyone cut out for college? The short answer is no. But, I firmly believe that a vast majority of those who fail in college could have succeeded with the right skill set and motivation. From what I’ve seen it’s not a matter of can’t but more of a matter of won’t. There is no substitute for motivation and yes, even the will to succeed. The determination to succeed is neither liberal nor conservative. The way that we go about getting to success (hand out versus hand up) is how we could apply the liberal or conservative moniker.
Liberal Encouragement
Seriously? Encouraging your children to aim high is a "liberal" mindset? I'm glad you're not my parent!
Signed, Proud of my MBA - thanks liberal mom and dad!
We've Not Given Up, We Don't Demand
Teachers are given tenure and then can coast. Curriculums are dumbed down. Students are passed along.
Sooner or later the day of reckoning comes, typically the freshman year, and the kid realizes they aren't ready or even capable of college level studies.
Not every one should be going to college. If you look at other countries, they realize this and redirect those not smart enough in high school. America has this lib mind set that no one should be told you're not smart enough, so we just set them up for the inevitable failure. All we are doing is wasting money and destroying lives.
Much of the problem
Is the instructors. My husband made the mistake of trying to take an internet class this sememster. It's one of those required classes that nobody actually NEEDS. He is an adult and has taken a number of other internet classes over the past couple of years, some good, some ok, but none as bad as this. Six weeks into the class, not one assignment has been graded. Every week the students have to fight to get the links made available to submit their work, usually they only become available AFTER assignments are due. The first major assignment was turned in 9/7, it's not graded yet. The second is due 9/28, and no one will have feedback from the first before the second is due. The instructor ignores phone calls, email, and discussion board questions. The web site is a disaster area. The students in this class are being cheated.
From information found elsewhere on the web this has been going on with this instructor for at least a couple of years. Certainly it works out well for the college, for all those students to withdraw after the date where they can get their money back, especially since this class is required for almost all degree programs. Every person that has to repeat the class has to pay another $450 and this instructor has not done any work. We will be taking whatever action is necessary to get our money refunded. Young people may be afraid to fight the college, or even to tell their parents what is really going on. I doubt that most who drop the class even go to the department head, much less the academic Dean, or President of the college. This allows the college to continue to cheat the students.
Students, and parents, need to remember that THEY are the CUSTOMER of the college. When you cough up that much money for tuition you deserve to get the service that you paid for, not a bunch of excuses and supposedly no choice except to drop the class and lose the money. If you purchased something from Walmart or Target for $450, got it home and it didn't do what the box says it's supposed to, wouldn't you return it and demand your money back? Why should colleges, universities, or any other school for that matter, be any different? In this economy that $450 is a lot of money.
Good column, Dr. Hubbard
All three of my kids went to NW, and I felt like NW really cared whether they succeeded in their freshmen year.
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