By Yael T. Abouhalkah, Kansas City Star Editorial Page columnist
Face it, Glenn Beck won a big victory for conservative America with the resignation of Van Jones.
Republicans and other critics of President Barack Obama were definitely in a celebrating mood Sunday.
Beck had attacked Jones, a special adviser on green jobs to Obama, on the air since late July. The name calling by the radio shock jock eventually paid off.
Others in the media started paying attention, and Jones' February statement that Republicans are "assholes" brought him lots of negative attention.
Beck kept up the pressure, and the mainstream media reported on it. As a result, Jones couldn't really muster any effective counter-attack. He had made mistakes, tried to apologize for them but was too late.
The end result: Jones' resignation is a big victory for the right wing, whose members have been criticizing Obama on all sorts of issues since he took office in January.









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Hey, twas, I wonder if the
Hey, twas, I wonder if the Star would have reported it?
If so called 'journalists'
Had so called 'journalists' been doing their job during the campaign the world would have already known that Obama has numerous connections with leftist radicals, socialists, marxists, and communists. Obama wrote in his own book that he intentionally associated with Marxist professors, and black radicals.
The American people are the winners here. Someone like Van Jones has no place in the government, and it's not because he called one political party names. Many of the people who support Glen Beck have been using that name for BOTH parties for quite some time. Jones was just rude and uncouth to use it on camera.
Yael and other so called journalists can continue to call Beck names but it's not going to accomplish anything except to make them look like worse fools than they already are. It's well known that the Star in general and Yael in particular, delete posts anytime they feel like it. That some of these posts remain is a disgrace. They are in violation of the Star's professed posting policies in addition to being offensive to most people. Many people would appreciate the Star sticking to their own posting policies.
And George Washington raped Dolly Madison too
My grandma told me that her grandma told her that her grandma told her that her grandma told her that a neighbor of Dolly's saw the whole thing!
he grew pot too
Geo washington, grew and smoked pot with thomes jefferson, who would brag about the strains he cultivated..beck smoked pot too!! ahhh I am telling obama you momma
Good example
My grandma told me that her grandma told her that her grandma told her that her grandma told her that a neighbor of Dolly's saw the whole thing!
...of why some posts get deleted. Nothing of substance to say, and then some wonder why their posts are deleted.
Feckless - what my post said
was in response to your Ronald Reagan link. People will say anything to get themselves in the news. Actually, I didn't expect my comment to stay, but Yael must be scouring the net for Glenn Beck/Sarah Palin trash - and missed it.
Bad example
My grandma told me that her grandma told her that her grandma told her that her grandma told her that a neighbor of Dolly's saw the whole thing!
Washington owned slaves and although there is no conclusive proof, it is thought that he did father a child with a slave woman. The master-slave relationship is inherently an unequal one, so an act such as this could be considered rape.
www.defendglenn.com
They have already experienced a failed denial of service attempt by the radical racist hate groups!
These extremists on the left will do anything in their power to deny freedom of speech!!!
YOU
Well....Mr Abouhalkah, You used some curious "framing" for your article."big victory for conservative America". Nice touch in hanging on to that left/right paradigm. In case you haven't noticed, Beck and many others have given up on BOTH parties and moved on.
"radio shock jock". Please.. Mr Abouhalkah, Beck's TV SHOW is kicking "MOTORMOUTH" Chris Matthews ass back to Pennsylvania by at least a 5 to 1 margin.
Persuading or Venting
Thank you Chazzykc. I was watching “The Queen”; an interesting, nuanced movie.
I have detected a certain amount of inflexibility in the blogs, and, yes, a certain amount of extremeness. God knows I am reflexively more hostile to diatribes from the right, and quicker to see an ounce of truth in diatribes from the left. I’m not happy with that, it’s just my initial reaction.
I watch Olbermann a couple of times a week (a wonderfully written show); but it’s not like I take him as gospel or would quote him as a reason someone else should think something. I’m not surprised that people are amused by Beck, Limbaugh, or Olbermann; I am just surprised that people would consider them authoritative or influential.
Don’t you suspect that people do this just to be argumentative? I mean, when you start a comment with phrases like socialist, Marxist, birther, right-wing, Nazi, etc., it doesn’t seem likely that you are going to change anyone’s mind. Doesn’t anyone care about persuading? Is it all just venting?
As for the Palin/Beck (and I’d probably include Kennedy in the last week) allure, is that just "journalists" tossing gasoline on the fire for ratings?
The victory is for the
The victory is for the American people who damn well do not want a Communist (self avowed btw) in charge of economic/employment matters in our government. Only Marxist columnists can be sad about his resignation.
You liberal Marxist Demo's thought the US was ready to join the red brigades at the revolution but you were wrong. This is still early Yael. More trouble is coming.
Watcher
So when will Glenn Beck comment on the rape/murder charges? His silence is deafening.
Comments such as this
Should be deleted and the poster banned for making further comments.
Out of Curiosity
Does anyone have any idea why Mr. Abouhalkah’s post on Glen Beck has 22,000 reads and counting, and his post titled “Public Option Dies a Public Death Sunday” has only 270 or so? Is this just the same thing that happens with Palin posts. Does it have something to do with “reads” from people with a specific interest in Beck/Palin?
I don’t have a good feel for how the blogosphere works; what the dynamics are.
No facts Grin.....just a "feel".....
I don’t have a good feel for how the blogosphere works; what the dynamics are.
The extremes on both the left and the right have swarms of basement trolls googling and then transmitting links to either opposite or sympathetic postings.....as a libertarian I tend to look at all of them and, in general, find them dangerously amusing and usually tantric.
The left seems far more proactively effective in their efforts than the right....they are certainly the shrillest of the two.
When Diuguid blurbed his ridiculous "socialist is a code word for black" headline last year, Limbaugh commented about its stupidity and the hits went off the charts..
That's what keeps Palin in the newspages and why Beck is the object of hyperbolic scorn. Their fearless leader, whack job Olbermann, has called for a "fatwa" on Beck.
The 4th Estate Living in the Past
I agree with you in part, Chazzykc. This seems to me like a political misjudgment by President Obama and the 4th Estate appears to have been lost in the past (like not reporting the sexual affairs of FDR, Eisenhower and Kennedy (and probably many, many others)).
I’m not sure I know what being a Marxist or a racist has to do with green jobs, but I agree that the public isn’t ready for it. Personally, I’d be OK with anyone who had a good idea—I have been known to agree with Anne Coulter. You're suprised; think how I feel.
ACL’s Careful Analysis
It seems to me that I have seen ACL’s exact same comment on half a dozen threads today. Perhaps it is a careful analysis of each subject, I’m not really sure since I’ve never read it all the way through (I usually fade out around the KKK comparison). Perhaps it is just pride of authorship, the knowledge that you have nailed one point perfectly (I fall pray to this sometimes). Perhaps it is just a reflection of a person without much to say substituting repetition for insight. Hard to tell.
I’m tempted to post this on all the threads, but I think I’ll pass.
America wins, Yael.....not just conservatives and Beck
1) Beck had attacked Jones, a special adviser on green jobs to Obama, on the air since late July. The name calling by the radio shock jock eventually paid off.
2) Others in the media started paying attention, and Jones' February statement that Republicans are "assholes" brought him lots of negative attention.
3) Beck kept up the pressure, and the mainstream media reported on it.
1) Beck ran videos of Jones speeches. He also cited documents that Jones had signed. Jones cooked his own goose by being who and what he is.
What should be frightening to all is that Jones was ever allowed to hold any position of authority. Gross negligence in the vetting system OR horrific judgement on the part of Obama's inner circle.
2) Once Jones video hit You Tube he was toast......He should have resigned immediately.
3) Actually Yael, the mainstream media was egregiously guilty of NOT REPORTING anything about Van Jones until Friday. That was the FIRST day that a single piece appeared regarding Jones in either the NY Times, Washington Post, Boston Globe, ABC News, NBC News, or CBS News.......not exactly a sterling record of fair, objective "reporting" on the part of the 4th estate.
One down, three to go.
A Side Note on Compromises
Waterplants, your post made me think of the health care bill, as so many things do. The vaulting words of the Declaration of Independence and the lesser reality of it and the original Constitution were clearly a compromise. The choice, I think was whether to let the perfect get in the way of the possible. It must have been a bitter pill for some to swallow, though obviously not so bitter as another 85 years living as a slave.
I know this has nothing to do with the thread, generally. It just reminded me of difficult compromises that have been made in the past, and the sometimes catastrophic consequences.
Glenn Beck: Fascist Gaslighting America
Bush and Cheney committed 9/11 (Viz. http://www.angelfire.com/biz/hankramey/The%20New%20Pearl%20Harbor.pdf). Glenn Beck is a witting agent of the "Fifth Column" of the Roman Anti-Christ, of which Our Founder, Thomas Jefferson, warned.
Bush and Cheney must hang. Those who say otherwise are traitors or fools.
Jeffersonian Exegesis http://theamericanfundament.blogspot.com
Don't blame Yael
His villains are the people that expose the Van Joneses. Never mind that if the mainstream media had been doing their job instead of wiping Obama's arse, they would have reported it.
Glenn Beck was only doing what Yael's MSM forgot how to do.
But they will get right on it as soon as we have another Republican president!
Glenn Beck
I'm glad to see that Mr. Beck has, for the most part, stopped playing the buffoon. While he and I have serious differences on subjects like animal welfare, religion (I'm a non-believer), party affiliation (I don't believe in belonging to a particular party, too thought restrictive), child welfare, and the environment (I'm a tree hugger); politically, we have very similar beliefs(I'm an American patriot hook, line, and sinker). My one significant problem with our forefathers is that they created a document that said emphatically that "All men are created equal" and then they allowed slavery. Had they done the right thing in the beginning, we would not be on the brink of destruction at this very moment. There would nave been NO need for a Civil War. I am not black or any minority but I DO find it impossible to forgive our forefathers that one especially heinous error.
How refreshing....
....to have a president who will get rid of bad advisers and not cling to them with iron-clad loyalty when it becomes clear that the person in question cannot do his or her job.
This president is far from perfect, but he is not a fool.
The "@sshole" remark probably had as much to do with it as Glenn Beck did, anyway. I mean... most rational people know it's wrong for a member of the administration to publicly call the opposition "@ssholes". Can't fault Glenn Beck for calling him out on that one...
Yael T. Abouhalkah doesn't get it.
>The name calling by the radio shock jock eventually paid off.
What paid off was Mr. Jones own words seeing the light of day.
Mr. Jones resignation was victory for the American people and of course it was a defeat for left wing apologists like Mr. Abouhalkah.
Rather than doing an honest analysis and recounting of all the controversial statements uttered by Mr. Jones over the years that recently became public knowledge...Mr. Yael T. Abouhalkah cites only a couple of Mr. Jones' statements and then he blames Glenn Beck for Mr. Jones' demise.
Mr. Abouhalkah's myopic view of this situation and unwillingness to address the full body of Mr. Jones' history provides an insight to how the left operates when faced with facts. Why embrace the concept of personal responsibility when you can blame the Glenn Becks of the world for the failings of lefties like Mr. Jones?
You aren't a silent majority. Republicans are a loud minority
You aren't a silent majority. Republicans are a loud minority.
Grace and Equanimity
Wow, “destroy the messenger?” Your post is 40 words long; you work in “libs” and “Marxist” and complain about destroying the messenger? Now I don’t require consistency, I don’t even practice it all the time. And I’ll give you extra credit for economy.
I think Van Jones had to go, and President Obama made a mistake in appointing him. Jones probably is a Marxist and a racist. I’m not quite sure what that has to do with green jobs, but I don’t quite think America is ready for a guy like Jones—unless he can play quarterback or hit 300, then he’d be welcomed with open arms on the Chiefs or Royals. Ideas don’t hold the same charm.
You’d have to admit, though, that what Beck did was destroy the messenger, not what the messenger was saying about green jobs (whatever it was he might have said).
In any case, I’m sure Mr. Beck will take his victory with his usual grace and equanimity. (I know, I know, destroying the messenger. I told you I wasn’t very consistent.)
One "victory" in a landslide of lies and racist shame.
Eleven new companies whose ads were recently seen during Beck’s program—Binder & Binder, Capital One, The Dannon Company, Discover, HSBC, ICAN Benefit Group Insurance, Infiniti, Jelmar (manufacturer of CLR All-Purpose Cleaner), Jordan McKenna Debt Counseling Network, Mercedes-Benz and Simplex Healthcare (creator of the Diabetes Care Club) —have pledged to ColorOfChange.org to take steps to ensure that their ads don’t run on Beck’s show. Fifty-seven companies have now committed not to support Beck’s show since ColorOfChange.org launched its campaign four weeks ago after the Fox News Channel host called President Obama a "racist" who "has a deep-seated hatred for white people" during an appearance on Fox & Friends.
van jones
Beck did not get rid of Beck. Beck did. His own words and actions could not withstand scrutiny. People who "claim" to be combat veterans of Viet Nam and still defend Jones an admitted Communist and blasting others for doing some of the things you supposedly defended...shame on you. Beck did not win anything and Jones was not the only one to lose. We all lost win our president appointed him.
My dear commrads, of the Right wing
Herr Beck will be leading us forward into Poland and we will follow.
We people from George Orwell’s novel will seek out all those who listen to their own minds and follow their own hearts and can't be easily lead, we must not let them win any seats in the Government. We will do all in our power using all the lies and falsehoods we can muck-up from the ground of hate, we will lead OUR people to victory.
We can go back to the wonderful days of GW Bush and his gang of merry men.
Never forget we will rise again no matter the cost to the United States of America
Glenn Beck
I wish I had you with me in Viet Nam Glenn Beck...and I could have given you a diaper for when you wet yourself when other men stood up for America...because as your Corpsman...I would let you die...you are one sick American...a disgrace to all us vets. Oh...by the way..you served with who???
Fool
Beck was born in 1964. He could not have served in Vietnam. Idiot.
Van Jones
Finally the silent majority of the united states is awaking.
Van Jones is only one of many issues this fascist president has brought to the white house. From socialized medicine to by passing congress to hire his buddies in areas of power, with out being vetted by congress is unconstitutional.
It is sad that we don't have more people in the press that talks about the truth. Shame on CNN, shame on MSNBC, it is pathetic that we have no real journalist that report on the truth. Thank you Glenn Beck, and Rush voice being the voice or Reason and Truth.
jayhiatt
We refused to be socialist and or fascist.
They all must go in 2010. Obama needs to resign for acts of treason against the constitution and the people of the united states.
Nationalism is not Patriotic
jayhiatt
We refused to be socialist and or fascist.
They all must go in 2010. Obama needs to resign for acts of treason against the constitution and the people of the united states.
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Time j-hiatt, time you got a life, and had children that you can indoctrinate into Nationalism, the worst disease known to mankind
Let's see, this is a perfect
Let's see, this is a perfect example of "Do as I say, not as I do." I see the liberals screaming their heads off, but had this been a Republican who had said all Democrats were "assholes," they would have asked for his crucifixion, followed by urinating on his ashes.
If one would take the time to read Beck's "Commone Sense", he tackles not only both parties, but the American voter in general. Quit your gritching people! This columnist is crying as someone in their party got caught with their pants down. Had it been a Republican who had done the same thing and had to resign, they'd be throwing an orgy.
Glen Beck's Victory
Jones had to go. He was simply unprofessional and embarrassing. Before we pat Glen on the back, remember Jones' comments were what ended his position. Glenn just kept them in the media's eye.
Jim In Las Vegas
I am amazed...
...by what I see on these comments. "Obama's brownshirts" , "real Americans" , "Marxists" , "Communists" ... you people are so overwhelmed by your own fear, and you have some many labels for your fear, that it is amazing that any of you can get out of bed in the morning. I'm sure you carry your handgun when you do.
Never carry one. Worst shot
Never carry one. Worst shot around.
Shark-jumpers
If the rightists in this country can't distinguish between Glenn Beck and legitimate, responsible journalism, I fear their judgment is beyond repair.
Their is a difference
The "legitimate" journalists failed to hold Van Jones accountable for his wacky ideas and statements. Beck did.
Van Jones is a co-founder of the fascist Color of Change, the group that tried to intimidate advertisers into pulling their ads from Beck's show. Look who is having the last laugh.
What next for Glenn Beck?
Maybe he'll start ranting about the giant purple bugs that live inside his head...or the angels he sees dancing on his cornflakes.
What a certified lunatic.
Glen Beck
Rapist? Wow, you Libs really do follow Saul Alinsky..."Destroy the Messenger." Too bad, America is onto your "devices." Thank you Glen Beck for shining a light on another Marxist in the White House. One down and one to go.
Glenn Beck
And what military service does this moron have? Only a mouse can not see beyond his nose and this is one huge egotistic mouse. He it the typical example of Fox news...low life..low brains...low knoweledge of what is what. This is by far, the most pathetic example of what Fox news has to offer. I am a Viet Nam vet..this man makes me puke...get a life Glenn...go work for the homeless and get a clue you arrogant, uninformed, piece of ****. Try working for a dollar instead of using your worthless mouth to divide our country...I fought in Viet Nam for real men..not you...you are disgusting to all us vets...you really suck and should get off the air....you make me sick
Victory for America
Glenn Beck may have brought it to the public's attention, but it is not a victory for Beck, it is a victory for real Americans everywhere....you know the type, the non-communist, non-racist moderates and conservatives...and yes, even some Democrats!
Big Difference
big difference between name calling, as you say, and reporting someone's own words. Kind of like Geert Wilders and Fitna.
Jones was a self avowed communist, militant, and black nationalist. He made a career out of exploiting other people's hate, and now, the chickens have come home to roost.
Glenn Beck
Richard Cummings
This is all ridiculous. Jesse Helms defeated Clinton's nomination of Loni Guanier to head the civil rights division of the Justice Department and it didn't hurt him at all. Most people are too busy with other things, like getting a job and paying their mortgage to care about this rather minor matter. Jones has been misquoted or quoted out of context so often it is absurd. In a moment of peak, he said he had become a communist. This was after the Rodney King incident. He is in fact a capitalist and is making money by earning it. He is an entrepreneur and a business man. He signed a petition about9/11 believing it called for an investigation of the government's incompetence in not preventing 9/11. He should have read what he was signing more carefully. I don't know much about Glenn Beck, except that he is a recovering alcoholic and drug addict and comes across as a bit of a nut case. His good ratings is a reflection of the general ignorance and stupidity of the American public. As he long he makes money for Rupert Murdock, Murdoch could care less what he says. Please, let's get on with solving the serious problems facing America and reject the hysteria that is currently plaguing the nation.
This is hilarious
Jones was a self avowed communist, militant, and black nationalist. He made a career out of exploiting other people's hate, and now, the chickens have come home to roost.
Beck grows more influential AFTER Obama's brownshirts organized a boycott against his advertisers.
Dirt
Is it true that Glen Beck Raped a woman in the past? If that is true, I don't think conservatives should be looking at him as a leader of their values.