By Arturo Mora, Kansas City Star Midwest Voices columnist 2009
Formula One boss Bernie Ecclestone is in trouble for saying good things about Adolf Hitler, which begs the question, why does anyone even go there, no matter what their point? Unless you’re a raving anti-Semite such as Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, there has to be a better way to state your case.
British Jewish leaders are up in arms—actually more puzzled—as to why he found it necessary to make these remarks. Public figures often get in trouble when they try to dress up some obscure point by using Hitler as an example. It never works.
What he said, in trying to talk about strong leaders, was, “In a lot of ways, terrible to say this I suppose, but apart from the fact that Hitler got taken away and persuaded to do things that I have no idea whether he wanted to do or not, he was in the way that he could command a lot of people, able to get things done."
Seeing as Ecclestone is an obvious lunatic, I will not debate his points. But, herewith, three simple rules when you are considering making any comments about Hitler.
One, try to avoid talking about Hitler at all, it always ends badly. Even if you’re comparing someone you think is really bad to Hitler, you’re likely to offend someone.
Two, never ever under any circumstances say anything good about Hitler. You may have a deep, complex, esoteric point that may even be logical (that was not the case here). But that will be lost because it will always pale besides the fact Hitler was pure evil incarnate.
Three, though not strictly a Hitler rule, if your quote starts something like this: “terrible to say this I suppose…”, well then stop yourself right there. That’s a big clue from the logic part of your brain: this thing I’m about to say is trouble, maybe I’d better not say it!







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Volkswagen as a scheme
Hitler certainly didn't "invent" the VW as Interface points out. Indeed, the VW was one of a number of schemes that were used to convince workers to save parts of their earnings for the car or other things with Nazi run "savings" institutions. These funds were largely diverted to other uses by the Nazi party. (Sort of like the Ponzi scheme that Wayne Cauthen runs at City Hall by moving funds around to different accounts.) I believe that some VW may have been produced commercially but in extremely small numbers. Generally, oil and gas were unavailable for civilian use in Germany throughout most of the War.
Porsche
Ferdinand Porsche was ordered by Hitler to design the precursor to what we now know as the classic Beetle, to be the "people's car," or "Volkswagen."
None were manufactured commercially for civilian use until after the war.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Beetle#.22The_People.27s_Car.22
Hitler invented the Volkswagen??
This "don't you dare compliment" Hitler thing is just so silly. And a waste of time.
What are you implying?
Please
So why do we still have Volkswagen?
This "don't you dare compliment" Hitler thing is just so silly. And a waste of time.
Interface - I'm still waiting!
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nonsense post by you today.
If Obama had been president during WWII,
he would have tried to arrest Hitler, mirandize him, and applied U.S. Constitutional rights to him in court of law.
Bong goes the bell
When you live in the echo chamber of your own head or within the limited sphere of others who agree with you it is easy to fall into the habit of cliche. Some of the problem is shorthand logic that works inside 'the circle' clangs to the ears of outsiders. It is the same reason that racial jokes are acceptable when Chris Rock tells them, but not when Seinfeld does it. Another part of the problem is ignorance. I think the point of Eccelstone's statement is that a dictator can command, but a leader has to convince. Does anyone seriously believe that Bernie Eccelstone thinks that Adolf Hitler was an admirable person?
Wow.
You make a big deal because a guy praises Hitler... okay, good for him! If he does, LET HIM.
When you people hear the word 'Hitler' your mind tends to go off on an outrage and you starting thinking of 'PEOPLE DIED - WARS - HOLOCAUST' Okay, yes - that was bad... but sadly, you people don't even make the slightest effort to look into it a tad deeper.
I consider myself a historian. I love history, I love how these leaders pulled their country out of poverty & anguish while our capitilist government were still moaning why we were still being affected by the depression. It's to bad you people only look at the bad stuff Hitler did - Yes, he killed millions... to be honest, I'm not surprised our government will do something stupid and kill millions.
And what your article made me angry about the most was when you said "Talking about Hitler will end up badly." - Well, I laugh in your face for that. I've sucessfully turned people into hating him into 'Okay, fair enough'
Many people are anti-semetic, even people who are not anti-semetic generally dislike Jews - it's a common thing, I understand Hitler took it to far - but that's not the point. In the end, you're blaming someone for praising Hitler. And again, I laugh at you.
Think of this as a timeline that HELPED us.
Hitler became leader of Germany.
Controlled the Nazi party.
Nazi's were absolute genius' in their technology.
Hitler declares war, in result - causes countries to increase their productions rapidly and improve on their technology.
Weapons improve (that help us fight the war today).
Nazi Germany collapses, Soviets & USA&Britain control Germany - a bit of tensions thus creating cold war.
Rapid increase in technology.
Space race.
More improved technology again.
Today.
So think twice before you go all pissy with Hitler, because honestly - you guys are the one's who have no idea what you're talking about.
You think it's good to praise Hitler.
Hard to know what to say.
Arturo, you picked an explosive name
…always rekindles controversy periodically…