George Harris KC Star Reader Advisory Panel
I’d like to go on record as thanking the insurance companies for keeping the government out of the middle of the doctor-patient relationship. In the consideration of health care reform, we must be very sure the government doesn't take over for insurance companies.
Just last week I spent 30 minutes on the phone with a very nice woman with an accent I mostly understood as she helped me figure out that my patient’s insurance wouldn’t pay for my services at the “in network” rate. I wasn’t on the insurance company panel, she said, so my patient would have a $500 deductible. A government worker no doubt would have made the deductible even higher.
Last year I had a lovely conversation with a medical doctor in Connecticut who was reviewing files for an insurance company. He said the psychological testing I requested approval for wasn’t medically necessary. I said that was odd because the patient’s psychiatrist had referred the patient and had specifically requested the testing to help identify symptoms that might respond to medication.
I said I had completed a psychopharmacology training program for psychologists and thought the testing would be helpful. He said he didn’t agree. I said I thought he might be practicing medicine in Missouri without a license. I added that he most certainly was practicing psychology without a license.
He said ok, he’d approve the testing. It’s really weird, but I haven’t had any more referrals from that insurance company’s network. The government probably would have sent the FBI to investigate me.
I don’t spend all that much time filling out paperwork to get insurance companies to approve treatment plans. There are only a few insurance companies that require two pages of forms for each patient every two or three weeks. And, really, if it weren’t for my disorganization, I wouldn’t get so confused keeping track of a different form for each of the fifteen or twenty insurance companies whose patients I see.
The government form would be much longer, I’m sure, and in triplicate. I work with only one company that requires four copies, but they provide the forms, so all I have to do is separate them. Well, I have to recopy everything onto the fourth form because I can’t write hard enough to make the last page clear, but this is a minor annoyance to be able to work with private enterprise.
It’s little known to the public that the contracts doctors have with most insurance companies prevent doctors from providing services not approved by the company even if patients agree to pay for the services themselves. You might think that would be an unreasonable restraint of trade. But think what the government would do. They’d probably prevent doctors from providing unapproved services even if the patient agreed to pay.
Wait, that’s what the insurance companies do. OK, so there’s a toss-up here, but if the government did it to me I know I’d be more upset about it.
My own insurance company last year decided I didn’t need a medication my doctor had been prescribing for ten years. It wasn’t approved by the Food and Drug Administration for my medical problem, they said. See? There’s the government interfering in my life again.
I looked, and there aren’t any drugs approved by the FDA for my medical problem, and I appealed the insurance company’s decision. I was sure they’d reconsider when they found out it was the government’s fault, but no luck. I sent the letter of appeal and never got an answer. The government would have sent a nasty reply.
So, don’t let the government get between you and your doctor; the insurance companies do it much nicer.







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Who Pays for Healthcare Insurance
That Was Helpful Artwill. As usual the world is much more complicated than my simple solutions.
As I understand you (and leaving aside charity cases) healthcare insurance is either paid by the employee through reduced wages, the customer through increased prices or the company through lower profits or some combination thereof. So when we buy a product we pay for some, but not all medical care.
Well, damn. My (now partially debunked) analysis seemed to offer such hope to cut off some of the other debates.
Grinreaper and Everyone Pays for Health Care
Grin: You invited comment so here it is. You are partially correct. First, charity care in the US in passed on to payers in two way (at least) the costs of care are raised to payers and many persons without insurance or underinsured are virtually excluded from health care or they receive "charity care" that is in many ways far inferior to even standard care much less best practice. Second, businesses can pass on the cost of health insurance either forward to buyers of their products or backward to workers. Whether these strategies can be invoked depends upon their pricing power in the markets where their products are sold or their control over wages (including fringe benefits) of employees. Since many businesses in the US are oligopolies, it is safe to assume that some substantial portion of these costs (no one knows how much) can be passed on the consumers. In tight labor markets as at present, much of this cost also can be shifted backward to workers. We know that this is substantial, but not how much it is. Therefore, it appears that businesses generally may bear some portion of its health insurance costs. Third, businesses actively engaged in international trade will find that the portion of health insurance borne by companies will make them LESS competitive, since competitor companies in other countries spread health care costs more on the public sector through general taxation NOT on individual companies. I hope this lengthy statement is helpful.
kcgrh and immigration
I agree strongly with your statement about Mexico. I am very outraged about what the elite has been doing to the common people, and their attempts over a long period of time to deflect the anger of the Mexican public to the US. I suspect that both you and I agree that LEGAL immigrants have contributed strongly toward making our country a far better place.
Everyone Pays for Healthcare Whether they Get it or Not
Yesterday morning I submitted several comments positing what I thought was an entirely new way of looking at who really pays for healthcare in this country. My hypothesis was that employers do not pay for healthcare insurance, that it is built into the cost of every product and service. In other words, we all, insured, uninsured, citizen and illegal alien pay for healthcare when we purchase virtually anything. If correct, no one would actually be undeserving of proper healthcare. Indeed, those without healthcare insurance would actually be subsidizing those who have it.
I invited comment, because I thought their might be holes in my logic.
With the exception of Twas_, whose input I do appreciate, all other comments returned to canned recitations of Republican and Democrat(ic) talking points: primarily how many people are uninsured and who deserves health insurance (or healthcare). I am left to conclude that either my hypothesis is inane (ego probably prevents me from actually concluding this) or that very few people have given any individual thought to the issue or are capable of dealing with new thought (assuming for the sake of this comment that my thought was new).
This is depressing. It is depressing for more reasons than just the future of healthcare.