By Barb Shelly, Kansas City Star editorial page columnist
Archbishop Joseph Naumann of Kansas City, Kan., has written a column in his archdiocesan newspaper, The Leaven, expressing sadness about Barack Obama's appointment of Kathleen Sebelius as secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services.
Naumann gives Sebelius, who is Catholic, credit for "representing Catholic social teaching" by advocating for better housing for the poor, health care for children, etc.
Then, this:
Yet, on the fundamental moral issue of protecting innocent human life, Governor Sebelius, throughout her career, has been an outspoken advocate for legalized abortion. For this reason her appointment to HHS is particularly troubling.
Naumann goes through the usual litany of sins: Sebelius is too close to Planned Parenthood and abortion doctor George Tiller. She supports embryonic stem cell research. She has consistently vetoed legislation to impose restrictions on abortion providers. (Most of them were unconstitutional, but that's not for him to point out.)
It's a thoughtful column and few readers will question the archbishop's sincerity. But I think that Naumann's expression of sadness will make a lot of Catholics sad about the restraints of conscience one needs to accept to be a good member of the flock.
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Restraints of Conscience?
Barb Shelly has finally proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that she is beyond clueless. Here is the deal, Barb...
What is right and wrong has already been determined and spelled out for us. It really is not up to us to take our individual consciences and get on the slippery slope of rationalization and try to rearrange what is right and wrong to suit our own conveniences.
We have free will...the choice to do right or the choice to do wrong. That is where conscience comes in, or is supposed to, at least. Barb Shelly wants to say that whatever she chooses is right because she is choosing according to her conscience. There are words to describe that but none of them can be said here. I will say that my cat could write a more intelligent blog comment or editorial than Barb Shelly can on her best day.
garryowen777's slam
Perhaps, if your cat's American, you should have let it write your comment rather than letting the pedophile priesthood do it for/to you.
Hitler agreed with you. Your cat probably knows better...all Americans do.
Jeffersonian Exegesis http://theamericanfundament.blogspot.com
Conscience
"Naumann will make a lot of Catholics sad about the restraints of conscience one needs to accept to be a good member of the flock."
What a strange statement. Conscience itself is a judgment about good and evil, right and wrong: and judgment constrains.
It is the "restraint" that influences people not to lie to a spouse, not to defraud an employee, not to taunt or belittle a vulnerable person, not to participate in the killing of a baby.
This "constraint" forbids murder. It is a constraint we can all live with.
Europe's "Old Sectarian Order" Meet USA's "New Secular Order"
Faction is the bane of Liberty. There is but One G-d, and One Truth, with little, if any, room for two or more "takes" on It, in fact.
Annointed Patriots of good reason established Our Creed, Republic, and Constitution, enshrining the three Mottoes: "Annuit Coeptis," "E Pluribus Unum," and "Novus Ordo Seclorem," as ideal, Divine Truth to be shared publicly by all Citizens of conscience, as One People (confining sectarian interests to private prayer), made up of all other nations of the world flowing into Us, guided by the principle belief that Divine Providence blesses our endeavors...in Truth and Righteousness, with Justice for all.
Sectarian factionalism pitted against The People's Elect has but one goal: a return to the "monarchy of religion" against which the American Whigs founded Our Nation as an eternal bulwark.
"Whig" means "anti-Roman Catholic" so it is no coincidence that Our Founder, Author, and Prophet Thomas Jefferson determined in 1819 that Rome, "the Wall Street of slavery" for over 2,000 years, is "an engine for enslaving mankind," and is, in fact, "the real Anti-Christ."
One who disagrees with America's Founder is Joseph Naumann's fellow-traveler Rush Limbaugh, a draft-dodging pederast, who stated on his TV show while the modern pedophile priest scandal was heating up that "The Roman Catholic Church is the rock-ribbed backbone of American moral values."
Thomas Jefferson, whose writings easily prove him a received Prophet of the One G-d (with stated clear answers to our present financial crisis and political corruption), whose inspiration and legacy has blessed millions of Americans, and inspired many more millions to revolt against the king and pope of the Ancien Regime/Old Sectarian Order of caesaropapism (stifled often by the Knight of Malta-led Roman Catholic CIA i.e. Dealey Plaza, and other catspaws of Rome such as Vatican-banker Rockefeller/Prescott Bush-financed Adolph Hitler), is a better guide for Americans than Naumann, or his proponent Rush Limbaugh, caught with Viagra on his return from one of the world's "hotbeds" of child prostitution, the Dominican Republic.
Truth and G-d is knowable. Living in pursuit of it is our constitutional right as Americans. We should follow The Founders' wisdom and The Creed by which we can all prosper as free men and women, and reject the transparent purveyors of perversion and evil that are Limbaugh and his allies, whose fascist plutocracy, ensconced within Rome's ancient "Black Aristocracy," the descendants of caesars and popes living in the same castles, on the same hills, in Europe, for two and three thousand years, is nothing but America's Fifth Column working since before their assassinations of Meriwether Lewis and Abraham Lincoln, to destroy our "liberal" Whig Utopian Covenant(which Obama's election proves is yet to be abrogated by G-d).
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One big question, iAmerican
What has Rush Limbaugh got to do with this post regarding Sebellius and the Catholic Church? Seems you clicked on the wrong thread.
The Many Faces of Evil
Those who actually care to be American might try, for a moment to think as did Our Founding Fathers, Whigs all, but for a single papist Charles Carroll.
Now Rome has reduced us through assassination, intrigue, false war and false money, with one-third of the Congress and the 5/9ths of the Supreme Court who illegally cheated a homosexual draft-dodger into the White House in 2000, violating explicitly the Constitution and all standing legal precedent (see Breyer dissent 'Bush v. Gore').
Just as Hitler-fan Coughlin, "The Radio Priest," had thirty million listeners until FDR pressured the pope to shut him up, pill-popping pervert Limbaugh has yet to see a reborn Whig America, annealed for the coming battle, restored with enough power to shut him up and bring Bush and Cheney to justice for their 9/11 treason, or Bush's father to justice for his role, with Nixon and the Knight of Malta-led Roman Catholic CIA, in the assassination of John Kennedy to send us to die for the pope in Vietnam.
Draft-dodging perderast Limbaugh and senior officer of the Babylonian pedophile priesthood, Naumann, that which America's Founder identified as "the real Anti-Christ," are each tools of Rome's Fifth Column in America.
The Truth is the truth. Understand it yourself, or not, as you wish, but know those who oppose America and Our Whig Utopian vision, will, before G-d, go to Tory Oaks again, in one form or another.
Limbaugh shall hang with Bush and Cheney for 9/11 and the rape of our economy by Rome's false elite. Tax-exempt Romanism in our land, the largest property owner next to the U.S. Gov't, now promoting pedophilia and illegal immigration to usurp the Republic (see: "The National Pastoral Plan for Hispanic Ministry"), shall be fully expropriated and banished. DV
Death for Treason
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Finally....
I do not understand why more Catholic leaders are not speaking up. I also do not understand why she continues to receive Communion.
She CLEARLY is going against the Pope, why handle her with kid gloves?????
Kathleen Sebelius
I am Catholic and the Catechism allows for disagreement over war and the death penalty. There is no room for disagreement on abortion. It is always wrong and takes an innocent life. You can not be true to the Catholic Church if you support Abortion for the masses. A person can make a mistake, have an abortion, and be forgiven. But a politican who promotes abortion for the masses and causes them to increase should not call themselves Catholic. If they do not support this important fundamental belief they should not be in the church. No one is forced to be Catholic. If you don't believe in its teachings, you are free to leave the church.I hope more Bishops take a harder line and tell them they are not welcome in the church.
seems to me there's a huge difference
between stating that as a matter of secular civil law, the choice is left up to the woman involved, and "promoting abortion for the masses." We have separation of church and state in this country, and unlike Taliban Afghanistan, religious law is not the law of the land. As a government official, Sebelius is not the Governor of Kansas Catholics, she's the Governor of Kansas. As HHS secretary, she will be in charge of health and human services for Americans, not merely for American Catholics Who Agree With Marnie.
Furthermore, a quite cogent argument could be made that the anti-choice camp's too-common refusal to work with pro-choice groups on common ground to ensure that abortions are rare choices, by promoting comprehensive sex education and contraceptives as well as promoting social services that will help mothers raise their baby after birth, has actually resulted in more abortions than would have happened if we had enacted those reforms.
Source of Sadness
It's tough to say what ought to make Catholics sad in this case. Certainly the fact that Gov. Sibelius feels constrained to consider herself a member of a religion with which she fundamentally disagrees reveals a saddening moral weakness, but far sadder is the restraint of conscience imposed upon or accepted by Archbishop Naumann and the Roman Catholic Church in accepting Sibelius' false profession even though the Church's own theology states this makes them complicit in the very acts they condemn.
C'mon, Archbishop, grow a pair and refuse the Sacraments to those who won't live by the teachings of the Church.
Enough already
We get it. The Catholic church is against abortion. So is all most every other person on the planet. Why doesn't the church speak out like this when we elect pro-death penalty politicians? Because they are hypocrites. They pick and choose their battles.
I beleive you are mistaken
While I am not a Roman Catholic, it is my understanding that the church does not speak our against the death penalty because they believe that there is not a moral problem with the death penalty.
The Bible proclaims "Do not murder" This is not the same as "do not kill." The person given a death penalty sentence is in a different moral position than the unborn child. Presumably the convicted murderer is guilty, and had a choice before committing a death penalty offense.
An unborn child has not had that opportunity.
It's true that churches are full of hypocrites. If a church-going hypocrite is keeping you from getting to a personal relationship with God, at least that person is close to God than you are.
We know we are sinners, and pray for God to make us less so.
Respectfully,
Anomaly