George Harris KC Star Reader Advisory Panel 2008
In tonight's press conference, President Barack Obama emphasized the urgency of the stimulus package legislation on which the Senate voted today to end debate, essentially insuring passage tomorrow.
Sixty one Senators voted to end debate on the stimulus package, including three Republicans. Some critics point to the few Republican votes as a failure of the president to achieve bipartisanship despite considerable effort to include the opposition party in the development of the legislation.
But achieving bipartisanship is and always has been unnecessary to achieving a more civil tone in political debate, and President Obama has probably incorrectly implied that one is equivalent with the other in his choice of language about the issue.
It is unreasonable to expect that 75 or 80% of any group of people will ever agree on complicated issues such as taxation, abortion, education or the stimulus package.
Bipartisanship is not likely, expected, necessary or even desirable. Good debate reveals differences of opinions and brings clarity to positions about proposals.
The problem in government has not been the absence of bipartisanship but the absence of intelligent debate. Agree or disagree with him, in tonight’s press conference President Obama presented a forceful view of the need for the stimulus package, and he highlighted clear differences with some Republicans on the matter.
The president disagreed with Senators who recommend doing nothing about the economic crisis.
He rejected criticism of deficit spending to spur the economy by those who were in charge of trillions of dollars of deficit spending in prior administrations.
He firmly rejected continuing economic policies that have led to the current economic crisis.
He disputed criticism of proposals to spend money on energy production and conservation, pointing out that these expenditures stimulate the economy now and save money later.
But the president did not attack the character or motivations of political opponents who disagree with Democratic proposals. He maintained that continuing respectful discussion and debate will improve the climate in Washington D.C. and will lead to better overall legislative efforts.
But he also left no doubt that the urgency of the economic problems facing the country trumps the need for the appearance of unity.









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Bipartisanship does not adequately describe the process at work in Congress. Perhaps with this important bill, the President and the Democrats wished to begin to build consensus and set a tone for future debates. And the process is political in that some congressional members look to their 2010 re-election.
Tom Ryan
The Crossroads
Kansas City, MO
Unfortunately, a large percentage
of the population who watched the speech (press conference) last night swallowed every word. You know, the "Jon Stewart voters" out there that believe every word. Obama has a way of sounding really good, unless you have a basic knowledge of economics. The Obamaniacs out there just got woo'd again.
and if you have at least a basic knowledge of econ
you tend to feel some relief in knowing that, at long last, we have a president who demonstrates a comprehension of the economic mess in which we find ourselves, and doesn't rely on bullsh*t gimmicks like "tax breaks" which simply dig us deeper into the mess.
Interface - my main point was the sheep factor
Yes, you have a basic knowledge of economics, although you & I may disagree on each other's conclusions. The issue was the "Jon Stewart voters" who don't have a clue, or an opinion, who swallow everything they hear from Obama. We will always have uninformed/uneducated people, but not too many years ago, younger people watched news or read papers to get their information. Now, the younger folks seem to rely on Comedy Central & SNL to get their information - which is dangerous.
the thing is
I would wager that your so-called "Jon Stewart" voters are more likely to be more up on world events and also to have a healthy dose of skepticism, as they are jacked into the internet, culling info from a variety of sources, as constrasted with your average sheeplike "Rush Limbaugh / Fox News" voter who imbibes his brand of media kool-aid only from a very narrow partisan viewpoint.
Puh-leez
How many "Jon Stewart" voters out there vs "Rush Limbaugh" voters, taking their marching orders from a guy with fewer hours of post-high school education than that required to get a cosmetologist's license? People who do NOT think for themselves, and are so proud of it they refer to themselves as "Dittoheads"?
Edith -
Please re-read my post. I referred to younger voters. You know, the same ones that are listening to their Ipod's while the Limbaugh show is on.
Twas-was--I'll accept that
Although please note that in every decade I've heard the same complaint, that youth spends its days listening to jungle music/hippie music/disco music/Soft Cell singing "Tainted Love"/iPods instead of soberly studying the issues of the day. I actively worried about this in the fifties, afraid of inadvertently turning into a juvenile delinquent.
Note, however, that in no era were young people particularly impressed with right-wing commentators, who have existed in the mass media since Father Coughlin and probably before. Should they study up on the issues, the RNC is in DEEP trouble, because it's been a long, long time since Republican policies gave us the kind of prosperity we enjoyed in the only Democratic administration in their lifetimes.
Like I said it was seven years of success
Until you know what party drove up the price of the fuel of freedom, and tanked the housing market. Tax cuts have worked everytime they have been tried from Kennedy, to Reagan, to W. Learn it, live it, and love it!
I Support the Porkuous Package...
I am ok with the big 0 staking his first term on $800B of our money. It will be a future drain on our children and grandchildren, but it will INSURE a one term presidency. Keep up the lib work big 0!!!!!
Tax Cuts got us into this mess!!????
Listen bend straighten your back and thrust your head out and up out of your........
Tax cuts got us out of the recession of 2001 and charged the economy to over 24 straight quarters of economic growth.
What got us into this mess was $4.00 a gallon gasoline (because we can't drill anywhere you know, not even in an Artic wasteland), and a Fannie and Freddie Meltdown in the financial markets. Said Fannie and Freddie having been overseen by the likes of Barney-the Banking Queen-Frank, and Chris-Countrywide-Dodd.
Lets not forget too the great sage Maxine Waters said, "Frank Rains is doing a fabulous job at Fannie"; that being just before old Frank got caught cooking the books.
My biggest problem with his speech
is that he said the tax cuts in the last eight years are what got us in this mess. That is proposturous! Excess spending - maybe. But the Bush tax cuts got us out of the last recession. Look, I thought Obama did a good job in his press conference (which looked more like a prepared speech). I think that the government should do something. I'm just concerned, as the CBO is also, that the spending package is not quick enough to stimulate. A passage of the package may have a short-term (very) improvement in confidence, but businesses don't change their course just on some good feelings. Hopefully, Geithner can help that out today, but I'll hold my breath.
So this was eight years of success?
It' more that just the tax cuts, it's the entire philosophy of tax cuts as a panacea and the dogmatic worship of the market that got us into this mess. Our economy is too big and too complex to operate without regulation and oversight. It not some Saturday morning fruit market. Tax cuts is a time of war is a bad strategy. If the Bush tax cuts were so stimulative we wouldn't be in freefall.
If we don't protect the freedom of speech how will we know who the a$$#@les are?
Well stated, George
Amen.