By George Harris, Kansas City Star Reader Advisory Panel 2008
General Motors for years made its living by producing fuel gulping trucks and SUV's. Critics say management made bad decisions and should suffer the consequences.
Maybe. But there is more to the story.
It's also true that GM for many years has been making E85 vehicles. You may have one and not know it. All Impalas and many trucks made in the last several years are capable of burning fuel that is 85% ethanol.
Big deal, you say. Ethanol produced from corn in the U.S. is an inefficient fuel that requires as much energy to produce as it delivers.
But ethanol produced efficiently from sugar cane in Brazil has made that nation nearly independent of fossil fuels. In addition, recent reports of research on ethanol produced from switchgrass indicate that nearly 30% of the fuel America needs could be produced efficiently from this easily grown crop. Missouri and Kansas are perhaps the two best situated states in the country for this type of agriculture. The midwest is sitting on land that is the fuel equivalent of a middle east oil field. And the fuel is renewable.
GM has also been an investor in ethanol production methods. As short-sighted as GM has been in producing gas guzzling trucks, it has been far-sighted in developing ethanol capable vehicles and ethanol production.
Think of this. GM for several years has been producing a fleet of E85 vehicles that are now on the road and ready to burn the fuel that switchgrass technology appears ready to deliver. Without such an existing customer base, no one would ever invest in a plant to produce ethanol.
So how stupid is GM? If switchgrass ethanol works, millions of cars already on the road would be able to use a domestically produced fuel, freeing us from importing much foreign oil. And GM is capable of quickly changing its other vehicles to ethanol capability.
Other car companies (Ford, Chrysler) also produce E85 vehicles, but GM has been the industry leader. It was a bet they made long ago.
Is it in the nation's interest to let GM disappear just when their bet appears ready to pay off?
In addition to E85 vehicles, GM is heavily invested in producing the Volt, a battery powered car that would use electricity only for short commutes. And GM also has other hybrids already on the road.
For those of us generally opposed to government bailouts, the GM decision is a tough one. But the economy would take a huge hit if domestic car production disappeared. And the economy would take a tremendous boost from redirecting money now spent abroad to domestic manufacturers.
My vote would be not to loan money to GM but to take a gamble on them with the Feds buying stock in the company. If GM's strategy pays out, taxpayers could make a bundle. And have a shot at energy independence to boot.









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Well Grinch, you're a
Well Grinch, you're a regular Nouriel Roubini and apparent proof that a man CAN be an island. Most of the rest of us and our jobs, are connected. My position is based on what I believe will be most beneficial or least harmful to our economy. Certainly there are those grasshoppers who do not deserve help but the vast majority who will benefit are worker ants who, like you and me, go to work every day, pay their bills and raise their families.
You must be an atheist (not that I hold that against you), the story is from Aesop.
Yes, RadMod, my "mattress is
Yes, RadMod, my "mattress is stuffed with cash", in the form of 5 year CDs and money market accounts, because I saw a good deal of this coming back in Dec 2006 and took steps to insulate myself from the effects. In other words, I acted on my beliefs and made sure my money that I earned from decades of hard work and saving over 40% of my income per year (I did this by living well beneath my means, never wasting what I bought and never buying what I absolutely did not need or really, really want) was protected in what I saw would be an inevitable credit and home price-driven recession. I did not know that it would be this severe, though. But my parents' values taught me to rely on myself, not anyone else, and not let anyone else's values influence me - and they didn't. During the boom times of the 90's, I never invested in a single Internet stock, I never bought anything I could not pay cash for (except a house in 1998 which I paid off completely in 2001), and I never took risks I was not prepared to take. I have always paid off my credit card balance in full every month and have done everything I could to educate myself in how to live frugally but still enjoy what I love to do. That means I can still buy fine wine when I would like to, or take trips if I want to, and it means I never have to worry about my bills or now non-existent mortage - and I've never taken out a home equity loan and never will.
In other words, all my life I have done with a lot less stuff in order to achieve financial independence and freedom from worry, and I've done it. So believe me when I say I'm sorry you're not in my position but it took me many years of hard work, discipline, sacrifice and a strong sense of purpose to get where I am and I make no apologies for my opinions on the Big 3 or any of these other myriad bailouts that will benefit mostly those who are completely undeserving of it, at not only my expense but at the millions of other responsible people.
Even if I AM an atheist, the biblical story of the ant and the grasshopper really rings true. I am an ant, and I am sick of the grasshoppers that want to feed off my own hard work to support them due to their irresponsibility and short-sightedness.
Grinch, If we had honest
Grinch,
If we had honest measures we'd know that we've been in the thick of a great depression for some time now. Real unemployment is higher than stated because we don't count discouraged workers, people who would work if they could but have quit looking, under employed, We don't count the self employed despite having no work. We only consider GDP and not Net National Worth. How telling would it be to calculate the net loss in value of our homes, retirement portfolios, cash saving, real wages, standard of living, consumer confidence? THOSE are the things that real people in the real economy see and feel.
Relying on the measures we currently use the policy makers will be months late to the party, driving the car with only the rear view mirror. We need to recalculate the definition of recession/depression and find more meaningful ways to measure it.
I won't belabor my views on the automakers, we've had that discussion, but I will say that viewed in this different context, a hard landing via bankruptcy would only exacerbate our problems. What drives our economy isn't supply side policy, it's demand side consumption. The Fed is out of ammo with monetary policy, we need some pragmatic, thoughtful fiscal policy. My hope is that the powers tht be can free themselves of dogma and move forward but frankly the Hank Paulsons and Barney Franks don't seem to be so inclined.
I hope your matress is suffed full with cash, sadly mine is not.
Great Depression #2 seems to be coming
WARNING: Be extremely careful buying gift cards or gift certificates this year - see following link
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/columnists/chi-tue-consumerland-11-18nov18,0,2998854.column
Excerpt: Year to date, consumers have lost roughly $85 million in gift-card value to bankruptcies, said Brian Riley, a research director at TowerGroup, a financial advisory firm.
"When the economy is cooking, [gift cards] are great. I buy them myself," Riley said. "But when the economy goes south, like it's doing now, you're lending money to people who might have trouble repaying it."
As per my comments below, I think a >10% GDP contraction will occur, which would indicate a technical definition of a depression, and I think the FOMC's estimates today are once again a day late and a dollar short. Guess what that would mean in terms of companies who sold gift cards/certificates going bankrupt? The FOMC is whistling past the graveyard with estimates that unemployment will only reach 7.5% next year - they're way off, just as they were in June as their revised estimates today make crystal clear. These FOMC people don't own crystal balls, and they always err on the side of optimism, so don't get fooled here.
Think I'm being overly pessimistic? Did you SEE what happened to the airline and car rental stocks today, not to mention the financial stocks? They were absolutely crushed.
And now for someone who shares my opinion, except this guy actually works for a Wall Street web site ...
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Well-Great-Depression-2-2011/story.aspx?guid=%7BB28B49B5%2DEFD1%2D4941%2DB57E%2DA2BA1545BA09%7D&dist=SecMostRead
Excerpt: "We see the Great Depression 2."
Bottom line: If you haven't already, PLEASE quit buying stuff you want or that makes you feel good and save your money before you need it, because if you lose your job, it will be too late to save. Also, start focusing on the important things in life and not so much on stupid political crap you can't affect anyway, whether it's Phill Kline, Funkhouser, or even Obama - I only mean that if you're excessively wasting time you really don't have on those people, you're overlooking a fundamentally more important issue - how you will provide for yourself and perhaps your family in what I believe is definitely going to be the worst financial sinkhole since the Great Depression.
It ain't only me, folks. By the way, today I checked the price of the 2 mutual funds I dumped back on Sep. 25th (small, old holdings, the only ones I had in the market), and they have since each declined over 31% since SEPTEMBER 25th, a time when the Wall Street pundits were telling you to hang onto your stocks and not to sell. I was shocked today to see a trader on Fox Business News admit he'd already sold his 401K holdings and to also hear that an executive at Bank of America had also recommended doing that. You need to simply stop listening to what the jackasses on Wall Street are telling you - do what you need to do, though I cannot say you should sell your holdings, since I am also not omniscient. I AM saying that I don't trust Wall Street, the government, the corporations, the credit rating agencies or anyone else now in this environment, and you shouldn't either.
The following are links to sites (if you weren't already aware of them) that have a lot of good market information - I read them every day ...
http://www.europac.net/
http://www.bloomberg.com/
http://www.marketwatch.com/?dist=ctmw
http://www.smartmoney.com/?hpadref=1
http://online.wsj.com/public/us
http://online.barrons.com/public/main
An outstanding article on the bailouts, GM included
Apart from this article, a panelist on Fox Business News this past Friday mentioned that compared to 2005 and also 2006, Americans are on pace to withdraw almost $500 BILLION dollars less from their home equity ('Mortgage Equity Withdrawal' - the acronym used is MEW) this year.
The following chart shows this dramatic fallout (note - each year has 4 bars, each bar representing the MEW in billions per quarter):
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_pMscxxELHEg/SOorqFuvg6I/AAAAAAAADho/3m3HtcTpWP4/s1600-h/KennedyMEWQ22008.jpg
So why do you care? Because the MEW was how a lot of homeowners got money for whatever reason - their homes were like ATMs - and now that so many homes are underwater (an estimated 10 million homes out of 41 million homes with a mortgage) and banks are tightening their lending policies, that source of money has been strangulated. And with credit card companies like Amex raising their rates and cutting limits, it is putting severe strain on a lot of Americans. The MEW is proof of how bad things are, and I am getting more and more convinced we will see a technical depression of greater than 10%, no matter what government tries to do. People just borrowed too much money based on inflated and unreal home values, and when those values simply evaporated, so did that money. That resulted in foreclosures, bankruptcies, losses for banks and mortgage holders like Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, and insurers like AIG who sold credit default swaps based on these mortgages.
http://www.europac.net/externalframeset.asp?from=home&id=14645
Excerpt about the Big 3 bailout:
To Bail or Not to Bail
With the Big Three auto makers now in a plainly visible death spiral, the automotive bailout debate is kicking into overdrive. The disagreement hinges on whether a bailout is necessary to support an important industry or whether the unprofitable dinosaurs of the past should be allowed to fail as America focuses on an information-age, service sector, and alternative energy future.
As usual, both sides have it wrong. The government should let the Big Three fail not because we no longer need an auto industry, but because we desperately do. What we do not need is the bloated, inefficient auto industry that we have today. By allowing the Big Three to fail, their capacity will be turned over to new owners who will be able to acquire the means of production at fire sale prices and hire workers at globally competitive wages. The result will be a more efficient auto industry making cars that people around the world actually want to buy at prices they can afford. Such auto makers could conceivably be profitable and could become the cornerstone of a manufacturing renaissance in the United States. In contrast, Ford, Chrysler and GM are never ending money pits that threaten to swallow a good deal of our economy.
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More gratis content for the KC Star.
Let them go down the drain, they have stayed too long
GM 's sudden stewardship of the environment is simply a way to continue to make gas guzzlers thanks to E85 an extremely inefficient fuel. The CAFE standards call for all car companies to achieve an average MPG for all vehicles. I believe the most recent number is 27 MPG. Well if you make the biggest money off of 10 miles per gallon SUV's you would hate to say good bye to them wouldn't you?
The CAFE standards has a loophole, that being that an E85 vehicle operating on E85 miles per gallon are ONLY figured against the actual amount of gasoline in the blend (15%) if you divide 100% fuel by 15% gasoline you get the multiplier to the mpg (666) therefore a gas guzzling 10 MPG SUV is given credit for 66.6 MPG. If you sell one SUV like this you can have 5 vehicles only achieving 20 MPG and this gas guzzling SUV and you average more than 27 MPG overall while not one of their vehicles really met the standard.
GM is not the only one taking advantage of this free ride Ford and Chrysler are too. The big three are heading down the toilet and this is just their hands clinging to the rim.