Sarah Palin goes rogue, looks ahead to 2012

Anonymous sources is plain laziness by the media and cowardice by the one talking. Or its passing on inaccurate and erroneous information to a more than willing media flunky. Incompetence, laziness, dishonesty, etc.

The first two lines of Yael's commentary tell all you need to know:

"Sarah Palin is "going rogue." That's the big story among the Washington media elite on Saturday. But here's the other part of the story.

As Palin aides drop hints that she's distancing herself from John McCain, they also are positioning Palin to become the GOP standard bearer.

It makes sense, scary as it sounds."

Note particularly: "media elite", "scary as it sounds". Another so-called newsperson who worships at the altar of 'The Obama'.

What makes you more uncomfortable, the fact she does not bow to "the media elite", or simply the 'R' after her name?

It doesn't. It uses anonymous sources all the time, no matter the perceived agenda. Your premise is faulty.

Why does the mainstream media use annonymous sources as foundations for stories ONLY when the stories support the left leaning agendas that they foster?

I have shown you sites that have DEBUNKED it and that Newsweek article says so as well.

Like I said, I can only assume you read stuff on blogs and take it as fact. Then repeat it. Either way, you have NOT shown any proof of the 'kill him' storyline. And this is a pro-Obama site, and NO ONE else has come up with any proof either.

As of this point, it was all made up by a couple of Obama supporters who work in newspapers (as if there isn't enough of them).

Interface, still accusing people of being paid trolls. Pot, meet kettle.

Joinamerica is my new favorite blogger. Not because I agree with any of the paid messages distributed on behalf of the GOP but rather because most of them are laughable. I forward them to friends and don't have to add anything for them to get the joke. On another thread, he/she talks about hearing the cries of desperate people in Chicago's ghettos. The idea of a Palin/McCain supporter presuming to understand anything beyond their gated communities is funny enough but wow, the ghetto. Next thing you know, joinamerica will be dropping a little Spanish and claiming insights into the barrio. Man, I can almost hear Elvis singing "In the Ghetto" right now ... keep blogging, joinamerica, because if I could pick my opponent in a debate I'd pick you and wouldn't even bother to get a decent night's sleep or eat a sensible breakfast.

Anybody with these initials is alright by me.

I think the governor has some serious work to do before she'd ever be a viable contender for much of anything. Right now I doubt she could get herself re-elected as governor but she has a couple of years if she can manage to stay out of any more trouble. Maybe, if Ted Stevens gets convicted they can put a place holder in his senate seat until she reinvents herself. She'll need at least a few years (or terms) in the senate before she could overcome the damage she's done to herself. Newt Gingrich has re-emerged as a senior statesman if he can do it anybody can.

Who is to say that the Republicans are not doing just that. Getting Sarah ready for 2012. Even if McCain wins...do you really think he will be well enough to run another 4 years. The Sarah Palin we see now, could just be the icing on the cake.

Which will make me want to go on a desperate diet!

If you go to my blog, you will see that I am not a big fan or even a little fan of Sarah Palin. Perhaps you would like to read my post:
http://babyboomeradvisorclub.com/what-most-women-already-know-about-sarah-palin-she-isnt-hilary-clinton/

There are others but that one is my favorite.
Don't forget to vote...I already have!

Southern smiles and world peace,
Sharon/BabyBoomerQueen
http://www.BabyBoomerAdvisorClub.com

I am 56...so I have lots of friends who have served in wars or still have families in them. Out of all those friends, I only have two people that I know, from that select group that are going to vote McCain. PLUS, I am in Florida who basically is a GOP state.

If you don't think that the Republicans don't have some cards up there seleves, then read my article on polling in Florida.
http://babyboomeradvisorclub.com/republicans-are-buying-their-volenteers-in-florida-election-will-be-a-close-call/

And while you are at it check out the real numbers on how McCain votes in the Senate and see what he has been spouting since 2000...Tom Brokaw busts him big time.
http://babyboomeradvisorclub.com/tom-brokaw-gets-mccain-on-meet-the-press-for-supporting-bush-92-of-the-time/

You don't have to take this middle class American's word for it. Read, be informed.

Southern smiles and world peace,
Sharon/BabyBoomerQueen
http://www.BabyBoomerAdvisorClub.com

refer to my comment just below.

The sad thing is that Paris Palin won't get the irony of the name Moose-ilini, because she more than likely has never heard of Mussolini, or if she has, she would guess him to be a famous opera star.

How pathetic.

The only reason she has an 80% approval rating is because she significantly increased the SHARE THE WEALTH policy in Alaska.

You get that? every resident gets a free check, in addition to higher wages, no state income tax, just because they're in Alaska.

Alaska taxes the oil companies and directly redistributes those tax dollars to Alaskan residents, without regard to thier economic need.

A friend of mine's sister, last year, received a check foer $1,800 (she's in her early thirties and single) - this year she received a check for $3,200.

She likes Palin but thinks she's untested, but LOVES her because of the free money she gets.

That's why she's the most popular governor in America - she increased taxes on oil companies and passed that tax directly to residents to an unprecedented degree.

but just saying so don't make it so. Sorry, son.

Ya think he's a paid Republican blogger?

Sarah Palin is today, the most popular governor in America. She has an 80% approval rating in her state. She is today and will continue to be until the day she dies, a true reformer. Palin sees herself as a civil servant, not as the fortunate winner of the political lottery which will allow her to stuff her own pockets with millions of dollars of the taxpayers’ money.

Sarah Palin put corrupt Republicans and Democrats in jail in Alaska. I knew that when she burst onto the national stage all of the same old lowlifes would tear into her and they have. They are frightened that she will get elected because of the certain knowledge that she will clean up that swamp we call Washington, D.C. and all of the multimillionaire politicians who have had their hands in all of our pockets for decades are terrified of her.

It’s unfortunate that the everyday Americans who would most benefit from genuine government reform (in the form of far cleaner government, lower taxes, no more pork, no more double talk and lies) are manning the battle stations for American elitists and corrupt politicians and doing everything they can to destroy this outstanding woman.

So joinamerica "has military friends." Sounds like that old qualifier when discussing race relations, "I know some black people." How truly pathetic. Some of us actually have family serving in the armed forces and trying to use them as political pawns to prove your poltical point of view is...well...unpatriotic.
If the poll you cite is correct showing only 68% support for the Republican nominee amongst members of the military, that is a significant drop from historical levels of support. From a historical point of view, the drop off in miltary support for Republicans actually works against any point you're attempting to make.

I give zero credence to the radical changes that Obama has suddenly announced in every one of his positions during the last 3 months. Obama is just trying to win the presidency. Why the prospect of an Obama presidency is giving so many people nightmares is the legitimate fear that, if he wins, US defenses will be emasculated at a time of unprecedented international peril and the enemies of America and the free world will seize their opportunity to destroy the west

I do not trust Obama to keep the United States safe and strong in a dangerous world (and I reject Obama's "government knows best" attitude when it comes to domestic issues and his socialist economic plan which turns its back on the free-enterprise system that made America the mightiest, most prosperous economy the world has ever known.)

In regard to national security there had been all these press releases announcing various military and veteran groups that support Barack Obama. This made no sense to me as I know many military people and not one of them trusts Obama and none of them are voting for him. Fortunately, the Military Times had done a poll and found that the U.S. military overwhelmingly supports John McCain over Barack Obama in the presidential election. The results are wider than anyone would have imagined.

In fact, the American military supports John McCain by a 3-1 margin over Obama,

McCain 68% Obama 23%.

Perhaps Obama’s Pledged Cuts in Missile Defense, Space, and Nuclear Weapons Programs provide a clue as to why the military so strenuously oppose Obama. These include Obama’s plans to unilaterally halt development of any new nuclear weapons (as hostile nations rapidly develop their own nuclear arsenals). Prevent weaponization of space (although hostile nations continue to do so), cut investments

Where are your sites showing this has been completely debunked?.
Sources?

The Newsweek article contradicts what you have claimed which is that Dana Milbank and others were wrong or lying. There seems to be some
D-E-B-A-T-E on that.

The Democrats insist that it is not relevant to look into Senator Obama’s past which has been spent almost exclusively with groups and various individuals who despise America and call for its destruction. Most ironic are Obama’s long term ties to the militant ACORN organization whose members are being arrested all over the country as they use their strong arm and illegal methods (which offend most Americans) to get Obama elected. It was ACORN whose members physically intimidated Hillary supporters at caucuses all over the country which is how Obama won the nomination (he never won a major state). And as if this was not enough, it was ACORN’s violent agitation and demonstrations that intimidated Janet Reno to force American banks to make the risky loans that caused the financial crisis. Obama has promised ACORN a place at the policy making table, so an Obama Administration will have more welfare at American banks, although the last foray cost Americans a trillion dollars.

Wow, you're really unhinged.
Did Obama use that word? NO. Have I used that word about Sarah Palin? Never. Like Barack Obama, I have engaged in polite discourse, even with those I disagree with.
Some college kids showed up with the offending tee shirts, again much ado about nothing. Do you think Obama sent out a secret memo for his male supporters to wear those shirts so older women like yourself would be all offended? Please.
You show your bias with your words and no, this is no reference to race.
Let this be our final conversation.
Good luck to you.

There is nothing in that article that says it happened:

the U.S. Secret Service had told media outlets, including NEWSWEEK, that it was unable to corroborate accounts of the "kill him" remarks—

There is absolutely no evidence that shows it happened. None.

We have been playing on the Internet, haven't we?

I guess you are not planning on actually proving your "kill him" comment. You just made that up, as I suspected. Or, you have spent way too many hours reading those Kos kids and think its true.

Well, your generation, kinda sucks, doesn't it? Just so I understand, Obama has now made it okay to refer to women as c--t, right? That is what his followers believe. So that whole 'uniter', 'bring people together', 'new politics'--all just a sham. Just what I thought.

Thanks for clarifying the campaign's position.

Sen. Barack Obama, giving America a preview of the priorities he would pursue if elected president, rejoiced over the Senate Committee passage of a plan that could end up costing taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars in an attempt to reduce poverty in other nations.

The bill, called the Global Poverty Act, is the type of legislation, "We can – and must – make … a priority," said Obama, a co-sponsor.

The legislation, if put into law, dedicates 0.7 percent of the U.S. gross national product to foreign aid, which over 13 years he said would amount to $845 billion "over and above what the U.S. already spends."

It would demand that the president develop "and implement" a policy to "cut extreme global poverty in half by 2015 through aid, trade, debt relief" and other programs.

When word about what appears to be a massive new spending program started getting out, the reaction was immediate.

"It's not our job to cut global poverty," said one commenter. "These people need to learn how to fish themselves. If we keep throwing them fish, the fish will rot."

Another commenter pointed out that America’s existing foreign aid efforts mostly end up in the personal accounts of the tyrants that control third world countries.

Research has shown that the mansions that crowd the French Riviera stretching a mile back from the sea, are mostly owned by foreign dictators and financed with the money of the American taxpayer. (Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat’s personal fortune at the time of his death was estimated to be as much as $3 billion dollars, much of it accrued from American foreign aid during the Clinton Administration).

When aid is given in food and supplies, the local dictators either sell the goods or cover the American symbols printed on the sides of containers, replacing them with their own names and flags. The latter is said to explain why the citizens’ are reported to remain unaware of American generosity.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/164512/output/print

Palin? Palin has done nothing to warrant the smear campaign the media has given her. I'm still not satisfied with the excuses we've been given for Obama's background. Especially his twenty year church membership in support of Rev. Wright's hate-teachings. And the article I've posted below needs answered... because Obama may NOT be eligible to RUN for president...

Obama sat in the same pew for 20 years in a anti-white, anti-semite church listening to racist Rev. Wright, who awarded Louis Farakan the church's 2007 "Man Of The Year Award." But I guess it was a just chance that Obama never heard Rev. Wright's hate speach. And if you believe that, you must be brain dead.

I understand Obama's speeches;You are a racist if you don't agree with me. You are a racist if you say anything back to my mouthy wife. You are a racist if you say anything about me. The U.S. Mint is racist because I don't look like any of those guys on the currency. The Germans and French are NOT racist because they love me as a Citizen of the World so unless you vote me for President of the World you are a racist. My preacher who hates white people is NOT a racist and if you don't believe that then you are a racist.

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Tuesday, October 21, 2008
Berg: Due to Procedure, Obama and DNC Admit all Allegations
According to Rule 36 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, a party upon whom requests for admissions have been served must respond, within 30 days, or else the matters in the requests will be automatically deemed conclusively admitted for purposes of the pending action.

On September 15, as part of his federal lawsuit contending that the Illinois senator is ineligible, pursuant to the U.S. Constitution, to serve as president of the United States, Philadelphia attorney Philip Berg served Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee with just such a request. Soon thereafter, on October 6, Barack Obama and the DNC acknowledged service in their motion for protective order, filed in an attempt to persuade the court to stay discovery. The Federal Rules require that a response to a request for admissions be served within the 30-day time limit, and Barack Obama and the DNC have not done so.

Therefore, this morning, amidst news reports that Barack Obama will be suspending his campaign for a few days so he can fly to Hawaii to visit his grandmother, who has suddenly fallen ill, Philip Berg will file two motions in district court in Philadelphia:

A motion requesting an immediate order deeming his request for admissions served upon Barack Obama and the DNC on September 15 admitted by default, and
A motion requesting an expedited ruling and/or hearing on Berg’s motion deeming the request for admissions served upon Obama and the DNC admitted.
Berg contends that the failure to respond and serve the response within the time limit is "damning," and made two appearances overnight on Rollye James' talk radio program, the second one coming shortly after midnight, during which he disclosed the meat of today's filings and the legal and political ramifications of the defendants' failure to respond.

“They did not file answers or objections or anything else to the request for admissions we served upon them on September 15,” Berg said to me shortly before midnight, noting that Obama and the DNC did in fact acknowledge service of the admission in their motion for protective order. “They knew the admissions were due. They knew they must object or answer specifically in 30 days. Here, they did nothing.”

Typically, requests can be used to ascertain three types of information: (1) the veracity of facts, (2) the authenticity of documents, or (3) the “application of law to fact.” Pretty much anything not privileged is fair game, and while the idea behind such a request is to obtain information, requests for admissions of facts and of the genuine nature of documents are generally not designed as a part of discovery, per se, but rather more of a mechanism used to whittle down proof later in the proceedings.

Unless permitted by the court or allowed pursuant to a written agreement between the parties, the party served with the request must serve a response within 30 days. How serious is a failure to respond? This, from PreTrial, by Thomas A. Mauet:

The automatic provision of Rule 36 makes it a formidable weapon because inertia or inattentiveness can have an automatic, and usually devastating, consequence. Hence, there is one cardinal rule for practice under this provision: Make sure you respond and serve the response within the 30-day period.

Given the "usually devastating" consequence of failure to respond in time to a request for admissions such as those served upon Obama and the DNC on September 15, just what were some of the admissions that Berg asserts Barack Obama and the DNC have, at least procedurally, admitted to?

Admit you were born in Kenya.
Admit you are a Kenya “natural born” citizen.
Admit your foreign birth was registered in the State of Hawaii.
Admit your father, Barrack Hussein Obama, Sr., admitted Paternity of you.
Admit your mother gave birth to you in Mombosa, Kenya.
Admit your mother’s maiden name is Stanley Ann Dunham a/k/a Ann Dunham.
Admit the COLB [Certification of Live Birth] posted on the website “Fightthesmears.com” is a forgery.
Admit you were adopted by a Foreign Citizen.
Admit you were adopted by Lolo Soetoro, M.A. a citizen of Indonesia.
Admit you were not born in Hawaii.
Admit you are a citizen of Indonesia.
Admit you never took the “Oath of Allegiance” to regain your U.S. Citizenship status.
Admit you are not a “natural born” United States citizen.
Admit your senior campaign staff is aware you are not a “natural born” United States Citizen.
Admit the United States Constitution does not allow for a Person to hold the office of President of the United States unless that person is a “natural born” United States citizen.
Admit you are ineligible pursuant to the United States Constitution to serve as President and/or Vice President of the United States.
There are, however, several options for Barack Obama and the DNC at this point. The first, and most obvious, is the argument that pursuant to Rule 26(f), a request for admission may only be served after the conference for the purpose of planning discovery detailed under that rule, and therefore the 30-day time limit on Berg's request has not yet begun. Here, though, Berg could feasibly argue either that the request for admissions is not a true discovery mechanism and is actually meant to streamline the future need for discovery, or that the defendants' acknowledged service of the request in their October 6 motion for protective order and failed, at that time, to specifically object or answer. The second option for the defense, still easily foreseen, is that Obama and the DNC could file a motion to withdraw admissions which have been deemed admitted. In order to file a motion to withdraw admissions deemed admitted by default, a party must show (1) "good cause" regarding why there was no response and (2) that such a motion to withdraw would not cause undue prejudice to the plaintiff. Here, Berg could contend that Obama and the DNC failed to meet those standards, that they cannot show "good cause" for failing to answer or object, and that withdrawing the admissions would cause undue prejudice.

Still, for Berg, the issue is clear. He simply wanted answers or objections, he said, and instead received nothing. Rule 36, according to Berg, is fairly cut-and-dry.

"It all comes down to the fact that there's nothing from the other side," Berg said. "The admissions are there. By not filing the answers or objections, the defense has admitted everything. He admits he was born in Kenya. He admits he was adopted in Indonesia. He admits that the documentation posted online is a phony. And he admits that he is constitutionally ineligible to serve as president of the United States."

jenninfirm,

You sound like a "disenfranchised" charter member of PUMA?
Are you guys even relevant anymore? My generation doesn't get their knickers in a twist over a four letter word. As to the sweetie comment, do you really think I care what someone like you thinks?
LOL
Nice playing with you.

I should start calling you sweetie, since Obama's women like being called a sweetie. I do wonder why you think "c--t" then is okay. Makes sense why you support Obama though. Both are offensive to women in general. Boy, that "new politics" sure isn't new, is it?

Anyway, you made an assertion about "kill him" and have yet to provide ANY facts to back that up. "Even Newsweek calls it a debate" is a cop out--either it happened or it didn't. You can provide a source from a "credible" site to backup your claim or you can't.

BTW, where exactly did I make the claim you were male--I don't think I did.

The people who know Sarah Palin give her an 80% approval rating. The elites who are terrified of her, have gone absolutely crazy trying to smear her ever since she was selected for McCain’s Vice President.

Perhaps the Democrats need to look into their own candidate at the top of their ticket a little more thoroughly (Something the press has studiously avoided doing).

Something that made me take the time to really look into who Barack Obama is (and who he is, is an extreme radical leftist with strong communist sympathies) was when at the convention, not a single person came up and said, “I have known this man for many years and he has accomplished great things.” etc. etc. (In fact those who have known him for many years are all either Black Panthers or Weather Underground radicals or Black Liberation Theologists) (and Illinois politicians who described him as an exceptionally cunning and calculating politician.)

There are no Reverend Wrights, no William Ayers, no Saudi Princes who funded the Black Panthers, no Tony Rezkos, in Sarah Palin’s past. Thank goodness.

The people who know Sarah Palin love her. She believes in freedom, she believes that America is exceptional. She is a normal albeit outstanding woman and instead of throwing mud at her, you ought to be grateful that she chose to go into the swamp we call politics.

She's a power hungry conservative, nothing more or less.

The only things I have read have NOT debunked anything, even Newsweek has called it a debate but we all know that you're a self proclaimed expert.. So please expostulate all you want.

As to your assertion that I'm a man, I've stated many times that I'm a mother so that contradicts your assumption. Funny isn't it?

Sarah Palin today has an 80% popularity rating in Alaska. She is today, the most popular governor in America. She is today and will continue to be until the day she dies, a true reformer. Palin sees herself as a civil servant, not as the fortunate winner of the political lottery which will allow herself to stuff her pockets with millions of dollars of the taxpayers money.

Sarah Palin put corrupt Republicans and Democrats in jail in Alaska. I knew that when she burst onto the national stage all of the same old lowlifes would tear into her and they have. They are terrified that she will get elected because of the certain knowledge that she will clean up that swamp we call Washington, D.C. and all of the multimillionaire politicians who have had their hands in all of our pockets for decades are terrified of her.

The scum in Alaska actually had t-shirts and hats made on which they proudly proclaimed that they were corrupt. And she came in like Mr. Clean and whipped their butts. That is why she has the high rating that she has.

It’s unfortunate that the everyday Americans who would most benefit from genuine government reform (in the form of far cleaner government, lower taxes, no more pork, no more lies) are manning the battle stations for American elitists and corrupt politicians and doing everything they can to destroy this outstanding woman

The only legacy Palin's given Alaska is that she's managed to suck more money out of the federal government for her state than anybody in history.

And how she's sidekick of a guy who wants to make people famous for getting earmarks out of Congress. Were it otherwise, Palin's name would be at the top of the list.

Republicans are pathological liars. There just arent enough rich people to get elected. So they HAVE to lie to get the racists and the religious nuts on board. And bullshxt the rest of them. Businessmen will always lie because they want your money and will do anything they can to get it. Car salesmen, every one!

Money does that to people. The really scarey question is this: have they screwed the pooch so badly, we can't get the economy and our standing in the world turned around?

Barack Obama's got his work cut out for him.

Compliments from the Obama campaign!

Dana Milbank? Please. That article has already been debunked--weeks ago. You need to keep up. (Although I just knew that was what you were going to link to). Do you have any EVIDENCE of this "kill him" crap?

http://voices.kansascity.com/node/2328

Interface I thought you were Mr. Issues? Now voting for the guy with "one car and one house"--how utterly low-information voter can you get. Hmmmm, so now instead of the "guy I want to have a beer with" its counting houses, cars, wardrobe and makeup. Seems like personality politics to me. No wonder we never get and issues or substance from the Messiah's followers.

Is Ted Kennedy an elitist? Is Warren Buffet? No to both. Is Obama--well, not sure if elitist is the right word--but arrogant and condescending come to mind. So do a lot of others words.

Maybe you, like Sarah, can figure out what newspapers you read. LOL

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/06/AR2008100602935_pf.html

who are outraged that she spent $150,000 on new clothes for the campaign, and that her hairstylist is the highest paid member of McCain's campaign:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/24/pains-makeup-stylist-fetches-highest-salary-in-2-week-period/?em

Right....

I'm voting for the guy with one house and one car.

"hysteria" -- lovely word.

As I have shown you, the "calling for the death" storyline is made up--you have passed it off as fact yet have shown absolutely no sources to back it up--I, on the other hand, have shown examples of "reporters" creating a story that doesn't exist.

This site isn't Kos or HuffPo or TPM where you can just write something and know everyone who reads it will believe and pass it on. Like you apparently have.

Sarah Palin is today, the most popular governor in America. She has an 80% approval rating in her state. She is today and will continue to be until the day she dies, a true reformer. Palin sees herself as a civil servant, not as the fortunate winner of the political lottery which will allow her to stuff her own pockets with millions of dollars of the taxpayers’ money.

Sarah Palin put corrupt Republicans and Democrats in jail in Alaska. I knew that when she burst onto the national stage all of the same old lowlifes would tear into her and they have. They are frightened that she will get elected because of the certain knowledge that she will clean up that swamp we call Washington, D.C. and all of the multimillionaire politicians who have had their hands in all of our pockets for decades are terrified of her.

It’s unfortunate that the everyday Americans who would most benefit from genuine government reform (in the form of far cleaner government, lower taxes, no more pork, no more double talk and lies) are manning the battle stations for American elitists and corrupt politicians and doing everything they can to destroy this outstanding woman.

Sarah Palin today has an 80% popularity rating in Alaska. She is today, the most popular governor in America. She is today and will continue to be until the day she dies, a true reformer. Palin sees herself as a civil servant, not as the fortunate winner of the political lottery which will allow herself to stuff her pockets with millions of dollars of the taxpayers money.

Sarah Palin put corrupt Republicans and Democrats in jail in Alaska. I knew that when she burst onto the national stage all of the same old lowlifes would tear into her and they have. They are terrified that she will get elected because of the certain knowledge that she will clean up that swamp we call Washington, D.C. and all of the multimillionaire politicians who have had their hands in all of our pockets for decades are terrified of her.

The scum in Alaska actually had t-shirts and hats made on which they proudly proclaimed that they were corrupt. And she came in like Mr. Clean and whipped their butts. That is why she has the high rating that she has.

It’s unfortunate that the everyday Americans who would most benefit from genuine government reform (in the form of far cleaner government, lower taxes, no more pork, no more lies) are manning the battle stations for American elitists and corrupt politicians and doing everything they can to destroy this outstanding woman

At some time Sarah Palin might have had a high popularity rating in Alaska. Likewise, she was at first extraordinarily well received nationwide. But what are her ratings now, either in Alaska or nationwide?
The McCain-Palin ticket is tanking big time for a number of reasons; perhaps the most pronounced is her incredible lack of qualification for the office.
By the way, she seems to have used Dick Cheney as a role model for proper conduct of the office. Like most sane people, I have friends who think Cheney deserves life in prison for the things he has done in that office.
If her supporters want her to lead the GOP, the seasoned pros who have been rankled by twelve years of the Bush family regency should start another party and leave Sarah with the body politic she has helped to destroy.

This is a woman who is patently unqualified. . She is not well educated to the point where she does not know the constraints of the Vice presidency. When she was interviewed by Katie Couric and Charles Gibson she displayed for all to see her lack of intellectualism and incapacity for critical thought. Being folksy may be charming to a small segment of the population but that alone does not qualify her to be a president. Labeling her a "reformer" is as lame as calling McCain a "maverick." Sarah Plain has already been shown to be a vindictive, shoot from the hip type of leader. As mayor of Wasilla, she once fired her police chief because he "intimidated' her. She didn't like some of the books at the local library and when the local librarian refused to have the "offending" books removed, she tried to fire her. It was only after a public outcry in defense of this librarian, that she withdrew her termination plan. She's no fiscal conservative either having built a $15 million dollar sports complex that the city of Wasilla did not have clear title to and seven years later it is still in litigation. As mayor,she supported Ted Steven's "Bridge to nowhere" and only castigated him after the political winds had changed. At the end of her career, as mayor she left a small town of 5,000 with a deficit of $22 million dollars. How's that for "reforming""
As governor of Alaska ( a state with a population of about 670,000 people) she gave the state Legislation no direction or budget guidelines and after a budget was submitted to Ms. Palin, she then proceeded to grandstand by vetoing key projects, by calling them pork. Public outcry and further legislative action restored most of these projects which she had vetoed simply because she was unaware of their importance. To the politically uninformed, this has gained her a reputation of being a reformer, when in fact, she is anything but!
The reason why Sarah Palin is popular in Alaska is for one reason alone, she "spread the wealth around!" Since Alaska is a significant petroleum producer, the price of oil has created a budget surplus. Rather than invest this surplus in technology to create energy independence and promote alternative forms of energy, as Governor, Sarah Palin has distributed this surplus to every individual in the state. Stalin would have been popular under that distribution of wealth.
Then of course, there's the infamous "Troopergate" where Govenor Palin was found guilty of abusing her power and she has lied about it claiming she was exonerated. Yes, Ms. Palin has exhibited she and the truth are not close friends, having been caught numerous times lying about her record as mayor and governor.
Sarah Palin is Joe Sixpack or in her case, Josephine, but need we forget we already have a president who is folksy, ultra religious, provincial and the antithesis of intellectual. Do we need another one in 2012? HELL NO!

This has been just an excellent thread and I'm so glad not to have to make a case against Palin's future in federal government, because you already have. I do have a few thoughts tho.

First...two terms of GWB being sold to us has really pissed off people, even in the midwest where we're pretty susceptible to conservative propaganda. I think enough people see Palin's weaknesses, diva-hood, TeleprompTer performance of other people's speech writing, etc. We have no idea who she is. She's being tutored but she'll not be Shirley Temple. Enough of that.

Now. About racism. I have friends in the South and I'm wired to it. (I"ll provide a link at the bottom to show you what they say.) Southern whites are incredibly racist. It's their culture. Racists are everywhere, mostly rednecks, but dumb and poor tend to stay in the South. They were "Southern Democrats" until JFK, RFK, and LBJ passed the Civil Rights Act of 1963 and the government forced buses, lunch counters and universities to integrate. They jumped to the republicans. They have to vote SOMEPLACE! Republicans, being rich and short on rich voters, took them in, as well as religious nuts. It's they only way they can win. They are working overtime... they can't STAND the idea of pickeniny children playing in the Rose Garden! Despite that Obamas a real man of vision and judgment, he's a nigra and that just is intolerable to them. Here's the emails I've collected from the southern command:

http://sites.google.com/site/radiomankc/obamapages

The gullible religious also found the Republicans who let them in with issues like abortion, gay rights, prayer in school. These aren't core republican issues. Core issues aren't RELIGIOUS at all. See how far Romney got? They're about MONEY. JUST MONEY. They just need to hookwink enough other voters to put them in office and they've done it.

I think many people who are NOT rich are very disillusioned by the GOP because of Bush and US jobs going overseas by rich corporations.

So no. Palin's toast. McCain's wishfully thinking he could find his way into history.. the consummate fighter pilot reliving the Vietnam war. Palin really WAS a bad Hail Mary pick, a little girl behind a mirror in WAITING--head being filled with the failed neo-con ideas that got us into this economic mess--just like BUSH and McCAIN. No depth. Workers for the wealthy. None of these airheads on the GOP side are visionaries. They're just puppets being handled and groomed but the great Reagan experiment failed and it was greed that killed it. Even Greenspan said he goofed.

About 'redistribution of the wealth'. There's Obama being too honest and McCain jumped him for it. EARMARKS, bridges to nowhere, federal projects, even aircraft carriers and transport planes the military didn't ask for... those are ALL wealth redistribution. Government sends money to companies who hire workers to build stuff nobody else will! Its like a tax rebate but not to individuals. Forget the 'socialism' labels. It's just campaign speech bullshxt. It's what the government does. Take your tax money and spend it on somebody else. And Palin got way more than Alaska's share... so critical thinkers need to notice stuff like that!

I think most people are wise to them. And the ones who aren't, sadly are so gullible they choose their politicians like they choose their pastors.

Don't try to reason with them. They drink the Koolaid and nuthin else. Lets just try to outnumber them, and VOTE! We must VOTE! Because THEY will.

The more we learn about McCain's insane pick, the more dishonest and corrupt she appears to be. Palin is more likely to end up in the Big House than the White House.

She is indeed a reformer. (My sister lives in Juneau and reports that everyone likes Palin except for the 15-20% of disgruntled Alaskans who don't and that's normal in politics.) Look, the elitists can't stand her. And we shouldn't listen to them. They're all rich and powerful. We must stop doing their dirty work in destroying the very people whose honesty and caring would actually improve our own lives. Sarah Palin sees herself as a public servant. She isn't egotistical nor is she power mad. She would have sold her house and moved if she found out that William Ayers "lived in the neighborhood". I was a Democrat for years and believe me, the socialist leaders all become multi-millionaires and the people stay the same or get poorer. The hypocrisy of leftists is appalling. You eventually figure it out. They are all talk.

Sarah Palin put corrupt Republicans and Democrats in jail in Alaska. I knew that when she burst onto the national stage all of the same old lowlifes would tear into her and they have. They are terrified that she will get elected and believe me it's not because of her stance on abortion or her alleged lack of knowledge. It's because of the certain knowledge that she will clean up that swamp we call Washington, D.C. and all of the multimillionaire politicians who have had their hands in our pockets for decades are frightened of her.

The scum in Alaska actually had t-shirts and hats made on which they proudly proclaimed that they were corrupt. And she came in like Mr. Clean and whipped their butts. That is why she has a popularity rating in Alaska of between 80 and 84%. That is why she is by far the most popular governor in America.

It’s unfortunate that the people who would most benefit from genuine government reform (in the form of far cleaner government, lower taxes, no more pork, no more lies) are manning the battle stations and doing everything they can to destroy this woman.

Take it from an Alaskan. Palin is no reformer. And she will never, ever appeal to moderates.

The "hate yelling" did NOT really happen so people need to check the facts.
Palin has given a much needed jolt to the Republican party.
She is also the Only candidate - either president or vice president that actually has "executive experience."
The liberal media has nothing but negatives about Palin. So sad. News agencies are suppose to "report" the news, not create it.
If McCain and Palin make past all the B.S. that has tried to block their way, Washington is going to get a real wake up call!

If you want a candidate who mixes religion and politics she is the one for you! If you like a candidate who is ready, willing, and able to mix the affairs of church and state...Palin is YOUR candidate! According to the polls, Palin's approval factor has absolutely plummeted since the Republican convention. Inside the McCain campaign some are refering to her as a diva and that is in the derogatory sense of the word. Palin does not have appeal accross the board with voters. In fact, many find her shallow, superficial and SCARY! She will not be back in 2012 unless she is a glutton for punishment!

more like "dumbness doctrine" -- did you actually read the article, kcgrunt?

She was a promising rookie brought up from the minors too soon and her time in the big leagues may have ruined her. She can't hit major league pitching and has gained a reputation (deserved or not) for not being the quickest snowmobile in the race. The stories out of Alaska about abuse of power, questionable use of State money for family travel expenses, etc. have tarnished the crafted image of the down to earth hockey mom. Todd Palin's past associations with AIP will hurt her with the America first wing of the party. She needs major rehab. Is there a political Betty Ford Clinic?

See the "tough, probing" questions this Ace reporter underhanded to Johnny Mac:

http://www.wftv.com/video/17712615/index.html

Guess the messiah's handlers don't like the fairness doctrine after all, or is it just they don't like it applied to them... hummm, I wonder which it is????

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/25/obama-campaign-cuts-interviews-florida-tv-station/

the messiah will have the country so effed up that a monkey could beat him.... IF McCain/Palin lose, she will be a shoo-in in '12...

the messiah, closet racist, socialist, pacifist not fit to lead....

If you're going to use my nom de plume please do so properly.
Perhaps, you're trying to be glib by engaging in persiflage to no avail.
Nice try about the usage of the word c--- and your postulation about how I feel about it.
If I recall you seem to think calling for the death of someone is a lesser crime than a four letter word on a tee shirt. I call that a rather distorted view of the world. You're hysteria is getting a wee bit tiresome.

which will assure the Shrilla from Wasilla will not have much of a political career left. It will be much like her PipeLine to Nowhere.....

Aren't you the one who thinks referring to a woman as a 'c__t' is no big deal? Classy.

Obama is the Dems George Bush. Like I said, we are effed.

And would be more effed if John McCain and Sarah Palin got their hands on it.

In this year the Obama campaign and the media have decided that:
Gerry Ferraro = racist
Hillary Clinton = racist, evil, scary
Sarah Palin = racist, evil, scary, dangerous

Anyone see a pattern??? This NEW Democratic Party is a piece of work, isn't? Never again will I ever simply support someone because they have a D after their name. Never. Not my money, not my time, not my vote.

This country is effed.

the words of those attending her rallies and it scares me to death to think what she and her supporters could do to this country. Fill the air with hate, fear, lies and you might have another Hitler, Stalin, Phelps clan, etc. Wake people and don't go for this stuff.

One time, however, I would love to see Palin and Hillary debate - probably would pay to see it. Hillary would smear her little butt back to Alaska.

Has allowed themselves to be hijacked by wacko conservatives. Sarah Plain reiterates the fact.
I was raised by republican parents who were socially liberal but fiscally conservative. They both were pro choice.
This is not the same party, that my parents and grandparents supported. Then again, it's probably why I am a liberal democrat.

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel

You are correct on that... I am not a moderate but I know many who are and they are not voting the Republican ticket...she is not ready to be the Commander in Chief of the US. And any one can look at John McCain and see he is an ill man.

Southern smiles and world peace,
Sharon/BabyBoomerQueen
http://www.BabyBoomerAdvisorClub.com

If some people hadn't decided they would only vote for a Christian, Mitt would have been the nominee. If this crises had happened a few months earlier, Mitt would have been the nominee, if Huckabee had dropped out of the race when it was obvious he couldn't win anymore after South Carolina, Mitt would've won, if Charlie Crist had stuck to his word and not endorced anyone, Mitt would've won, if the media had been impartial, Mitt would have won. I can go on all day as to how many things had to go wrong for Mitt to lose, but he is way too smart and has way too many good ideas for the perfect storm of unfortunate events to derail him in 2012. Besides, our economy will be in even worse shape by then and people will vote smarter.

As a liberal, allow me to say how terrified I am of a Palin for President campaign in 2012. The Governor's appeal to moderates is so uh, high, that I am quite sure that the democrats will lose the election. Please don't let her be the nominee, not that, anything but that.

Am I right that I can vote for Palin in the Republican primary? Gosh, should I vote for President Obama in the Democratic primary or Gov. Palin in the Republican? Decisions, decisions.

I think Palin's problem is obvious. She is afflicted with a severe form of the narssistic personality disorder, and is incapable of seeing reality or seeing her own flaws. People within her own campaign are calling her a "diva"; that can't bode well for her.

We have not heard the last about her ethics violations in Alaska. There are actually several different ethics complaints against her that are now being investigated by a special counsel, who happens to be a Democrat.

Palin could very well be charged with an actual crime before this is all said and done. If she honestly thinks she has a shot at the Presidency in 2012 she is truly delusional. She is one of the MAIN REASONS that Obama is doing so well in this election!

The fact is, the woman doesn't have the intelligence to actually run for president. She has no grasp of the issues and cannot seem to get her head around the Constitution either.

I know people who have already voted for Obama who might have voted for McCain if it wasn't for Palin. The Republican party needs to take the party back from the crazies if they have any hope of coming back. Making her the standard bearer would just further alienate moderates.