By Yael T. Abouhalkah, Kansas City Star Editorial Page columnist
Rush Limbaugh has a point, and the liberal media ought to recognize it: Colin Powell endorsed Barack Obama largely because of race.
"I thought it should be about race," Limbaugh said Monday on his radio show. "I thought you liberals thought this is a historic candidacy because finally we're going to elect a black guy to be president. Why hide behind this? Why act like it's not about race? What, you want to tell us it's about his policies?"
There's nothing wrong with conceding -- even if you are supporters of Powell and Obama -- that race had a lot to do with Powell's decision.
After all, black men and women across this country are going to vote for Obama in waves. Polls show it will be a majority between 90 to 95 percent.
So where does Powell fit in all this?
Sure, he's been the darling of Republican politicians for years. That's how he became Secretary of State in George W. Bush's administration, after all.
But Powell has always been known as a moderate Republican. And it's simply not surprising that a black, moderate Republican would come out for Obama.
Limbaugh wasn't the only one agreeing that race played a big part in Powell's decision.
In his radio show, Limbaugh played a soundbite from Juan Williams of Fox News, who said:
"Of course it has to do with race. It has a lot to do with this sort of senior black man, sort of the original crossover race star in American politics, Colin Powell; I think reaching out to this younger black man, and I think in so many ways it goes beyond race. But I think Rush Limbaugh's right, if he says race is a definite factor here. In terms of his legacy, I think this will stand as a real monument reaching out to the -- potentially, the -- first black president of the United States."
Powell's endorsement was important for Obama, but was not a game-changer. In fact, it was more expected than unexpected.









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Powell the Bush Doctrine Architect???
For the past two months we have been hearing how much the Obama campaign is anti-Bush. Suddenly Obama’s newest advisor and supporter in the architect of the Bush Foreign Policy that Obama abhors…or does he? Why has the press not brought up this inconsistency or total backflip..
Publius2
The Press
You expect the press to make any sense? They are almost all, a bunch of yellow journa, auth, write, Ah, heck they are keyboard operators.
colon Bowell is a hack
It was only based on race. Bowell and Osama look the same, not like the guy on the $1 bill.
Powells endorsement was NOT racial...
You are talking apples and oranges here...
Colin Powell is what I would call an informed voter.Unfortunately a lot of Americans are not.
If he had come out earlier I would have been happier,so perhaps there is some other agenda there for Colin Powell. I am not a political analyst
But to say that Collin Powell is going to vote for Obama because he is a black man is an insult.
Look how long it took the Clintons to come out of the closet to back the party ticket.
And as far as Rush Limbaugh goes...I wouldn't listen to that self serving, pompous, pill-popping, wind bag if my mother came up from the grave and asked me to!
AND because Juan Williams said it was racial as well...do you think that makes it true?
Some of Obamas votes will be racial, does that mean he shouldn't be President of The United States? Or is that McCains camp already crying about a loss!?!?!?!?
What is the black registered voters in America...about 33% and what do you think the people who do not want a "black" man in office is? Probably about the same, 33%. So, those two stats wipe each other out and you are back to square one.
It is going to be a tight race.
I have already voted and I know I voted for the right man.
Southern smiles and world peace,
Sharon/BabyBoomerQueen
http://www.BabyBoomerAdvisorClub.com
Powell ............
I will never refer to him as a General again after reading the info on Wikipedia......he dropped his pants on our country. This man served our country and I thought he was suppose to have a code of honor??? A lot of great men and women died and took secrets to their grave, as my husband did, but not Powell! Now, I understand why he is backing Obama in "the last hour"!!! He has already contributed all that he is allowed to, to the Rep., party way back when. Now, we know what he is all about. I also understand why Rush made the statement he did! Enough said of this piece of crap!!! DISGUSTED!
Powell is a racist
Colon Bowell is a punk and a racist, he is just one big piece of crap.
Well, I guess Joe Liebermans
Well, I guess Joe Liebermans endorsement to McCain must also be racial? Stop acting like a dope. McCain has been begging Powell for his endorsement for a year. Powell listened to his head, listened to the candidates and made a decision based on who he felt would be the best President.
So you're saying African American's can't think?
Denise Tiller, Midwest Voices 2008 Panelist
Okay, so if a white person searches his or her conscience and studies the issues from an intellectual perspective and decides to vote for a white candidate that isn't racist. But if an African-American person does the same thing it is? That implies that African Americans don't have the same intellect and conscience as white people. Pretty racist stuff for the Star.
Perhaps Powell was ticked off because Bush and Cheney used his integrity and honor to push the war Iraq. I think Powell has more honor and intellect than most of us.
Denise Tiller, Midwest Voices 2008 Panelist
You Said it Denise the Liberal, Not Me...
I would take a wild guess that a 90% vote for a candidate with no experience, a socialist agenda(oops, sorry Lewis), a pacifist approach to foreign relations and a list of racist friends, would support the thought that the voter didn't have much intelligence...
Rush Limbaugh and Race...
Rush likes his audience Stupid and Southern, so who would be surprised at what he said about Colin Powell? Powell happens to be a deliberate, clear-thinking man of conscience... and there's no room for that on the Dick Cheney Show.
Southern, but not stupid
Smarterthanyou, have you even been to the south? We're not stupid though many of us do listen to Rush. I'm a Rush listener and I think for myself. I'm not voting for Obama, not because of Rush or Hannity but because I feel that Obama doesn't have the experience or the same values I do.
I have no problem voting for a black person. I would have happily voted for Ms. Rice as President!
Oh yea, she's southern also! I guess you would call her stupid?
Rush has the largest segment
Rush has the largest segment of his audience in the northeastern US ! If you want to talk about racism, ask yourself why 87% of Blacks polled say they will vote for Obama. Is it because of his vast experience in an executive position? Is it because he has put his life on the line time and time again for his beliefs ? No, it’s only because he is black.
What about the other elections?
Well PBVT is clearly aligned with racist rush. Why have blacks voted in prior elections for whites? Why are whites voting for Sen. Obama? All of these years we have seen white presidents win it must be because the whites only voted for them because they were white? Blind racist views will never lead to clear visionary thinking and acceptance of all Americans.
Making a Abouhalkah like pronouncement
For a brief moment I want to say that Mr. Abouhalkah has written this article as if he is a biased racist. I do not have clear proof and it is just a feeling after taking a special look at the naming structure of his article.
When Mr. Abouhalkah leads in this article with, "Rush Limbaugh is right: Powell endorsed Obama because of race" it should be noted that only one of the three persons are identified with their full name. Additionally, it must be noted that throughout this article both of the black guys are not referred to with their titles. So in conclusion, I think by refusing to show the respect both of these men deserve (General & Sen.), Abouhalkah is a racist. Wow, this process of stating thoughts as facts is fun. Perhaps Abouhalkah is only writing this way because he has the same general skin tone as McShame, largely at lest.
Rush Limbaugh
Rush Limbaugh is right but not in the way he thinks. Powell's vote was governed by race, not because Obama is black, but because Powell is not a racist and simply voted for the better man -- just as he said. For Limbaugh to suggest otherwise is disingenuous to say the least. Now there's a man (meaning Limbaugh) with extreme partisan biases. And so it's a case of the pot calling the kettle black.
Limbaugh High Priest of Hatred and Racism
Limbaugh is the mouthpiece for the most backward elements in our society. He promotes hatred and racism for money. Sarah Palin is Limbaugh's student. She is as dumb as a post but she can spout hate language as well as any. Coiln Powell rejected McCain precisely because McCain embraced Limbaugh and Palin to solidify what has become the base of the Republican Party- extreme social conservatives who use religion and race as a cudgel. The Republican Party of fiscal conservatives is dead and in its place is the party of bigotry. Perhaps McCain had no chance to win without appealing to the hate-mongers but in the process he has thrown away every vestige of honor he may have had.
Are Catholics Christians? Even if they vote for OBAMA?
Fred23 enjoys lecturing others on what Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. thought about the poor and about christian values. Here's a post from someone with an opposing viewpoint. Fred23's quick response will no doubt be to label this guy as "not a christian". Of course.
Does anyone notice how DIVISIVE the right wing has gotten recently? Or is it recently? Were they like this ALL ALONG? What about UNITED WE STAND? Are those EMPTY WORDS, Fred23?
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I'm Catholic, staunchly anti-abortion, and support Obama
by Nicholas P. Cafardi
Cafardi wrote: I believe that abortion is an unspeakable evil, yet I support Sen. Barack Obama, who is pro-choice. I do not support him because he is pro-choice, but in spite of it. Is that a proper moral choice for a committed Catholic?
As one of the inaugural members of the U.S. bishops' National Review Board on clergy sexual abuse, and as a canon lawyer, I answer with a resounding yes.
Despite what some Republicans would like Catholics to believe, the list of what the church calls "intrinsically evil acts" does not begin and end with abortion. In fact, there are many intrinsically evil acts, and a committed Catholic must consider all of them in deciding how to vote.
Read the rest of this article on National Catholic Reporter Website.
No way
Uh, asked and answered. I already wrote "it is not a one issue decision" read my posting. You may think I care if a Catholic would vote for Obama. He is one of the lost soles.
Obama promises to redistribute the wealth. Well, thank you , I am middle class and Obama words sound like fingernails on a blackboard to me.
If you know your candidate you would know he is for a certain population. He fights for that certain population and that is his main, even his singular goal.
Just check out his resume'
www.obamaresume.net
You don't know your candidate like I do. He is not for America.
Obama
Obama is very very liberal and as an example voted against the Anti-late term abortion law when Obama was in the Illinois state Senate--and he was present for the whole debate. How can a Christian vote for such a evil stance.
That is not mention he is staunch advocate of the estate tax. He called(QUOTE) "Upon the Christians and the Jewish community to and the Muslims to convene on Washington to oppose the repeal of the estate tax." --I wonder how he expects farmers to pass on their farm to their kids?? On the other hand it is even more strange that he uses a term called the "ownership society" and opposes things such as health savings accounts and school choice as he says they are like "social Darwinism." He is more socialist than any other candidate--can you say, HELLO BIG GOVERNMENT--HELLO SOCIALISM
Obama is Corrupt as the day is long, Tony Rezko , an indicted political fundraiser (under federal corruption investigation for receiving $6 million in kickback favor deals) is a close friend who Obama approached to buy property with---while the crook was still being investigated. Obama agreed to buy one lot and Rezko bought the other lot and then sold part of it to Obama. Now Obama paid $300 000 LESS than the asking price while the adjoining equally value property was bought by the crook at FULL asking price--sound crooked?? Of course it is as both properties where bought from the same seller. So why did Barrack get the land so cheap? Because the seller let the land go cheap to Barrack while he got his asking price from the crook, Rezko. Also, Rezko helped raise $60,000 for Barrack's campaign. SO what deal was made between these two (besides Rezko's business associate getting an internship. What does Obama now say? He now admits the deal was a "mistake." Bull, he is an obvious ethics question don't you think??
Real history vs. RNC talking points
When people try to link Sen. Obama with bad deals or unethical behavour, should Keeting 5 be left out of the equation? When people attempt to place a degree of Americanism on selected citizens, should a known member of a "lets separate from the mainland" group be ignored? How can the spouse of VP want to be not be pro-American? Of course if Mr. Palin supports anti-American views & actions, how can this be better than any issues that Sen. Obama may have? Perhaps white racist views are ok if they are vetted by the RNC.
More
In his memoir, Mr. Obama reflected on the grainy, black-and-white images of the civil rights struggles that his mother showed him when he was a boy and how they reminded him “that I wasn’t alone in my particular struggles.”
Some personal struggles--OH how Barrack has struggled
Lets see... he overcame the oppression of being born to a well-off middle class white woman and a Harvard Ph.D. father. He overcame the oppression of attending private schools his whole life. His life took a dark turn when he was admitted to Columbia and then Harvard Law school where they practically lynched into the position of President of the Law Review--and from there his life was a "hell" of accolade and accomplishment. Oh, in his defense the liberal media will say over and over ,"his funny name, Obama got him made fun of when he was young.."
closing
So to close I leave you with this perfect quote which was meant to defend OBAMA:
"I know that, for instance, at Harvard he was respected for working with the conservatives as well as the liberals and that was how he was elected the first black president of the Harvard Law Review"
Speaks volumes. He does what is expedient for his political career. He hides his true agenda (but it is apparent what it is from his resume). He gets votes from lies. He misrepresents himself and then cries fowl when people catch him in it--then he calls it a smear campaign. and ...
Powell more of the same. When the 70% popularity statistic for Powell was hanging around and there was the question, the possibility Powell might run for office--HE NEVER LET ON WHAT PARTY HE WAS WITH. NOW WE KNOW!
You didn't see the news piece
Is that because he is "chicken"? LOL!
Take the information out of context if you want, Freddie boy, but the piece was showing that Obama joined two divisive groups together. The right was sadly outnumbered by the left at Harvard, and Obama was friendly with the right, even though it was viewed as kind of strange.
The woman interviewed specifically RULED OUT what you are implying, that it was a politically motivated friendship. Face it, Fred. You are so shallow you can't imagine that this guy is GENUINE. His words speak of moderation and of finding COMMON GROUND. What words do your candidates espouse? FEAR.
We choose hope over fear. America is strong enough to do many things, but recently we have been driven by fear and greed. We am ready for a change. That is why we are choosing Barack Obama and Joe Biden.
You dont read
You can choose to ignore every arguement placed before you . It is sad you are so lost you resort to picking on two misspelled words. I post on five sites at once with one hand tied behind my back. Thanks for the links--I posted there as well. I want to make sure not everyone is as clueless as you. You are an example of a person who is never satisfied with the truth.
Lost Soles
Whoa. Lost soles? are there shoes attached?
I know a great deal about Barack Obama. I know that he is respected for working with both conservatives and liberals. You paint him as a radical, but that is not the truth.
I know that, for instance, at Harvard he was respected for working with the conservatives as well as the liberals and that was how he was elected the first black president of the Harvard Law Review.
You may feel that an incestuously raped twelve year old girl should be forced to carry an embryo - not a baby an embryo - to term, and to deliver it in spite of any health risk, but if you do, you are a right wing fringe and not a mainstream American.
You may self righteously proclaim that anyone that disagrees that a twelve year old raped girl should be forced to bear a child is NOT a Christian, but you are mistaken. Your God is not big enough for me.
Obama as a teacher
You still don't know him.
Obama as a professor would pose a question to his students and then sit back and take notes. He never offered to take a side--he stayed away from any commitment. His former students never knew what he believed or where he stood. His colleagues state that he never joined in their round table discussions. He was always one of the two instructors that would not attend.
What do you really know about this candidate? Why did he not release his academic records? Why does he have so many ties to unsavory characters--I mean really?
Obama
Powell had several opportunities to jump to Alan Keyes', black and Republican Presidential efforts,but choose not to, and race was never brought up as an issue. Keyes would have gained immediate credibility with his longtime friend Powell's endorsement.
I don't think race was the important factor for Powell. It has never been in the history of him separating himself from the Democratic Party, where so many blacks went to rest. It's just not the way Colin Powell has operated in his military career or other service to this country.
Powell has been damaged by the Bush Administration--damaged both in clout and confidence. Attaching himself to Obama provides him potentially a means of distancing himself from the Bush failures. This was more about Colin Powell aligning himself with moderation, than it was aligning himself with race.
Fred23 is on the wrong side of Christian
Don't tell me who is more christian, Mr. Fred23. You don't know me and you don't know CHRISTIAN values.
The candidates you support believe it is right to force a 12 year old girl, raped by her father to carry the child to term? That is your litmus test for being a good christian?
Since you feel free to judge someone you have never met, I feel obliged to do the same. You, sir, are not a christian.
Oh and regarding Sarah Sixpack, the Wall Street Journal is suggesting that the news media stop covering her. The McCain campaign promised she would eventually be able to actually meet with newspaper and tv reporters. That turned out to be a lie.
http://blogs.wsj.com/politicalperceptions/2008/10/21/political-wisdom-is-it-worth-covering-palin-at-all/
Litmus test
You think it is OK to kill a baby? And answer to your ridiculous hypothetical statement Yes I think it would be wrong to kill the baby in the case of a 12 year old getting pregnant from a rape. You gave me that stupid test and I passed. My conscience is clear. Killing is not the answer to your question.
As for being a Christian, we were not talking about whether Fred is Christian but I am. I believe in protecting the right of the unborn over the 12 year old any time.
Well, Plung Me...
Fred23 writes:
"Look, you guys don't even know anything about your candidate. He will plung this country into darkness."
I KNEW those darkies were up to something. I sure hope they don't plung my wife.
not in my america
OK, Rush Limbaugh is always right (a right-wing radio entertainer/wingnut) but is rarely correct.
Another thing, I am sick of putting up with racist and anti-semetic idiots who spread this Obama is a Muslim BS. First off, he's a Christian. Second, even if he were a Muslim (which he is not -- look it up!) that would not make him anti-American.
My country -- the United States of America -- was founded on freedom of religion and separation of church and state. Freedom of speech means morons can present erroneous accounts as "facts" but also means that others are free to correct disinformation and state their opinion.
A big problem is that moderates don't speak out or write in often and are drowned out by wingnuts on the left and the right. IMO radical left and right morons both would like to restrict others' rights in order to push their agendas. Fundamentalists are facists, it makes no difference whether they are Christian, Muslim, Nationalist or PC lefties.
Fringe extremists from both sides of the political spectrum have been and will probably continue to support terrorist acts against our country and make efforts to restrict our rights.
Do not tolerate those who are intolerant!
Obama is not Muslim
No, Obama is not proven to be Muslim. Never said he was. But if he is Christian he is on the wrong side of abortion. Likewise those who are pro capital punishment are, in my opinion, on the wrong side of that issue.
My point is that Obama acted to join a church only after finding out it would further his objectives in garnering support. As to his being Christian, he needs to observe the sanctity of life.
Granted this is never a one issue decision but if you call Obama a Christian and you are a Christian you have the duty to call him out on his supremely pro-abortion stance.
Quote:Forget all that, as
That's what it's all about. HOW DO THEY DARE.
I bet you are sweating under your hood :-)
Oh please!!
First of all the "couple of former slaves sticking together" crap is exactly that...CRAP.
Obama in no way has any ancestors that were slaves here....hence a misnomer in African/American.
I have the greatest respect for Powell and he has a right to say whatever he wants. Just like I do, I just don't carry any political clout.
I cannot support a man that will be the Commander-In-Chief that is quoted in saying "if the political winds change I will side with the Muslims."
Sorry folks but that is scary!! I still see planes flying into two buildings and they were flown by???? And that is who he will side with?? You gotta be kidding me!!
Sometimes you just gotta say it!!
see, that's just dumb
Yeah, he's "quoted" as saying that, but he didn't say that. If you're actually basing your vote on that, then you're pretty damn stupid.
What Obama actually said:
Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_write_that_he_would_stand.html
Obama did not say he would side with "the Muslims," which could easily be read as meaning he would side with the world's Muslim population even if it meant working outside the best interests of the United States. He said he would side with "them," referring back to his mention of immigrant communities and specifically to "Arab and Pakistani Americans." Furthermore, he was speaking of an "ugly direction" like the mass internment of Japanese Americans.
This false quote goes hand in hand with the equally false rumor that Obama is a Muslim.
"Powell's Choice"
Shirley Chisolm, Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, and Alan Keyes ran for the presidency in past years. All of them are well known politicos, but none of them got black support in their campaigns, and failed miserably. I wonder why black voters would choose white candidates over these black candidates? Perhaps, like everybody else, they preferred to vote for the best qualified candidate rather than blindly support a member of their own race. Why then should General Powell act any differently in choosing Barack Obama over John McCain? Perhaps, because he too is a septuagenarian, he realized that McCain is just too old to take on the most demanding job in the world.
World Opinion Matters
Whether isolationists like Fred approve. We used to be respected. Now, like spoiled children, Bush apologists tell us that we don't need the stinkin' opinions of other nations. We're too important to be ignored and their opinions be damned.
Wrong again.
Bush 2nd term
You don't know your own President.
Bush started his first term and made the mistake of throwing everything away that had Clinton's signature on it. Bush acted unilaterally in his foreign policy. He made mistakes.
Now, his second term Bush turned it around. He started acting in conjunction with other nations and was no longer unilateral. We have his second term to thank for making advancements in Iraq.
When and if Obama gets into office he will , no doubt throw everything away that is Bush. This he will do out of misguided misunderstanding. This is something I expect from someone as inexperienced as Obama.
This is just one of many concerns I have with Obama. the other side is he thinks if America is nice and entertains every ill conceived idea that comes from abroad everyone will love America again.
Sorry wrong again.
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Regarding the MLK Jr, nonsense. Dr. King was, first and foremost, a champion of the poor of any race or religion. He also wasn't a sarcastic, cynical, manipulative individual, unlike some who post on this forum.
Dr. King believed in the conscience of good people.
That is why he and others like him, black and white and other creeds or colors, faced the police dogs and tear gas and the water cannons. That is why they passively walked towards the angry mobs that were shouting hated and death threats at them. That is why they even endured the church bombings that killed those little girls.
However, the campaign was not unanimously supported by other leaders of the Civil Rights Movement. Rustin resigned from the march stating that the goals of the campaign were too broad, the demands unrealizable, and thought these campaigns would accelerate the backlash and repression on the poor and the black. Throughout his participation in the civil rights movement, King was criticized by many groups. This included opposition by more militant blacks and such prominent critics as Nation of Islam member Malcolm X. Stokely Carmichael was a separatist and disagreed with King's plea for racial integration because he considered it an insult to a uniquely African-American culture. Omali Yeshitela urged Africans to remember the history of violent European colonization and how power was not secured by Europeans through integration, but by violence and force.
King and the SCLC called on the government to invest in rebuilding America's cities. He felt that Congress had shown "hostility to the poor" by spending "military funds with alacrity and generosity". He contrasted this with the situation faced by poor Americans, claiming that Congress had merely provided "poverty funds with miserliness". His vision was for change that was more revolutionary than mere reform: he cited systematic flaws of "racism, poverty, militarism and materialism", and argued that "reconstruction of society itself is the real issue to be faced".
Wikipedia article on Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. casting a vote for Senator McCain version 4.0? and Gov Sarah Palin, who has little concern for rape victims?
Not a chance and you KNOW it.
MLK and Wikipedia
You can bet that MLK could not have possibly have voted for a non-Christian such as Obama. Not a chance, unless you think MLK was a hypocrite.
Let me tell you about Obama, the guy you say is the messiah (and boy do I have a story about that):
Mr. Obama worked as a community organizer before he started Law school. He had already made up his mind he wanted a life of public service(which translates to career politician). But he was not having much success garnering support from the local congregations and could no one to come from those churches. The preachers showed little trust for him.
One day Obama received a letter with words to encourage him to join a church if he wanted anyone to trust him. In other words he joined the church after he was told no one trusted him in his position as a community organizer--so he joined a church. The church he joined…… Reverend Wright's. It would only take him decades before he would finally say he did not understand the Rev. to be such a racist. He never heard those hate filled speeches.
So which is it? Is Obama a "Christian" who attended church and listened to hate speech...or did he sign the list and never attend. Was it not Obama who said the Rev was a spiritual advisor etc.??
Don't you think that MLK would have been smart enough to see how having hatred for white people or for the USA was not the way? No, sorry, I give credit to MLK and you are foolish to believe any holy person would vote for Obama. Unless they just don't understand?
Why not believe General Powell? Here is what he said.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27266223/
The video on this is dramatic, and he has a detailed and thoughtful explanation for his endorsement, but hell, if Rush says it, then nevermind all that. It has to be racial.
Jon Stewart pointed out several other high ranking military endorsing Senator Obama, but they were all white. Nevermind them. They probably had racial motives too. Just like General Powell.