By Yael T. Abouhalkah, Kansas City Star Editorial Page columnist
By a knockout, Joe Biden was the more effective, better-informed vice presidential candidate Thursday night.
Granted, Sarah Palin did not look like she was channeling a duncy Tina Fey. Palin looked far more confident than many people had expected. Her folksy approach to answering questions did get old rather quickly, though.
Overall, Biden's strengths overwhelmed Palin's.
Examples:
-- Biden gave more complete and convincing answers on how he and Barack Obama would respond to the nation's economic problems.
-- Biden was far more effective at telling Americans what, exactly, he and Obama would do in the areas of health care and in getting the nation out of Iraq.
Palin, on the other hand, wandered all over the place on several occasions.
In fact, it appeared she had been overprepped: She would be answering a question and a little light seemed to go off in her head, sending her in a completely different direction.
Example: She talked at several points about "energy independence" and the "greed and corruption of Wall Street," even when they had nothing at all do with the topic at hand.
Palin did not melt down during the debate, so John McCain's campaign team will claim that was a victory.
But Biden was far more effective at appearing ready to become the next vice president of the United States.
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Biden demolished her.
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saying it's so don't make it so
"Palin cleaned Biden's clock!!!!"
Riiiiiight....
Re; Saying it's so...
They believe in magical thinking and if they keep chanting over and over the end result will favor their candidates. LMAO
Bingo cards
We need to start up a 2008 Election bingo game, like Office Bingo, with ease-the-pain Republican one-liners:
1. At least we energized the base.
2. The Mainstream Media were mean to us.
3. Sarah Palin will be an irresistible force in the New Republican Party.
4. The debate moderators were mean to us.
5. We would have triumphed, but the MSM hung George Bush around our necks.
6. At least the surge worked.
7. At least John McCain saved the economy with his battle against GSEs.
8. At least Sarah Palin saved the economy by sounding the alarm against greed and corruption on Wall Street.
Gee, that went faster than I thought. I was only going to post three or four. I might actually make up them cards. I AM an Original Maverick, y'know.
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Put down the crack pipe you BIAS FOOL!!!!!!!!
The American Media, especially idiots like you make me absolutely sick to my stomach!!!!!!!
Are you flippin' kidding me??? What debate were you watching, dumb nuts?
Palin cleaned Biden's clock!!!! You obviously need to put the crack pipe down!! I'm sure after this write up, MSNBC already has offered you a job with a downside guarantee of 500K a year.
Give me a break!!!
Who's Crack Pipe?
Another intelligent response form a Palin supporter. Nothing like using foul language and a crack pipe for a response to a political debate. Its people like you who need to look closer at the facts and let your emotions not influence your decisions. You are clearly a bit too emotional....and possibly a bit unbalanced. Maybe you should be the one to put down the crack pipe.
Leave LD Robinson alone
Clearly, she knows how to communicate effectively to sway opinion and bring us all to the green fields of sweet reason: unlike most posters, she uses PLENTY!!!! OF !!!! EXCLAMATION POINTS!!!!!!
Not enough use of caps for my taste, tho.
It's "biased" not bias
Who's the fool?
Biased
That's all you have? It's biased not bias? I guess that is "change" right? It was late when I posted. Thank you for correcting me.
BAAA HAHAHAHAHA
In your case it's not put down the crack pipe, it's put down the Obama Kool-Aid.
So typical of an Obama "Mark" ... LOL... What a joke! It's sad, It truly is.
Inane
LDRobinson,
You, like Sarah Palin are smoke and mirrors and have absolutely no substance.
It's no wonder you continue to swallow the Bush hegemony old McCain is selling.
Good, very good Mrs. Robinson
You got rid of the exclamation points, which makes your post look less like a Caterpillar bulldozer demonstration plot. I think it's great that you think that Governor Palin cleaned Senator Biden's plot. Now you only have about thirty days to convince the two-thirds of the American public who disagree with you of that. After that point, of course, Governor Palin will be heading back to the Great White North to gut moose and, one hopes, avoid jail time.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Palin the folksy
Sarah Palin was forceful enough (when she wasn't fumbling through her copious notes) and she held her own BUT she did not give any substantive answers. We now know that she loves Israel, likes to wink , drops her "g's" in order to be folksy and quaint and that like GW Bush she can't pronounce "nuclear."
The thing that most stands out in my mind and should stand out in everyone's is her complete lack of understanding of the US Constitution and the fact she wants to expand the power of the Vice presidency. She's an under qualified extremist who is only capable of mimicry.
Thanks but no thanks.
Sarah I don't believe was making airhead remarks...
about the powers of the vice president - she wants to broaden the powers of the vice presidency just like dear ole Cheney did and much to the detriment of the people. Those kinds of remarks made by her should scare the pee out of you.
Thomasej:
You say it all well!
She doesn't respect the Constitution because she doesn't know it
Hello? Sarah Palin's MAJOR gaffe: she doesn't have any concept of our Constitution and how the founders of our country set up our government to ensure checks and balances on power. The executive, legislative, and judicial branchers are SEPARATE. NO, we cannot be "flexible" or expand the power of the Vice-President to the legislative branch. This is a BIG EXAMPLE OF IGNORANCE in Palin. She's no Dick Cheney, but sometimes dumb can be just as dangerous as stealthy. She evidently didn't remember this from high school.
There should be a major outcry over her air-headed remark about expanding the powers of the V.P., good God!
No more seat-of-the-pants cowboy ad hoc off-the-cuff ruling by executive fiat! I want a President and Vice-President who have a deep understanding how our democracy came to be and who will safeguard it against ignorance.
Tonight, Americans were
Tonight, Americans were treated to a stark contrast.
On the right, Republicans offered up a candidate who performed like a diligent understudy eager to perfectly recite the lines on a page. Sarah Palin spent the night doing what she does best--palinizing, avoiding answering questions and instead providing canned generalities and stock "zingers." She performed her choreographed debate dance well, down to how often she looked at Joe Biden and how often she looked in the camera. She studied for this debate. It showed.
On the left, Democrats offered up a candidate who didn't just perform. He certainly executed what he needed to execute properly--in a forceful and earnest manner. But Joe Biden did more than just "perform well" on stage. Unlike his opponent, he didn't just recite what was on notecards. He recited what was in his heart. Indeed, at one point, he spoke so earnestly that he became emotional as he talked about his dedication to his family. And when he spoke of his dedication to this country, and Obama's as well, he spoke just as earnestly and authentically.
The mantra going into the debate was that if "Palin could be Palin," she would shine. She shined, all right. She beamed as a neophyte does when they tremble with excitement about finally being on the national stage. She glowed when she delivered the scripted lines she studied, even giving a little nod to herself as she successfully delivered the words meticulously drafted by someone else. But when it came to convincing Americans (and especially independents) that she is an authentic candidate and a qualified candidate, it doesn't appear that she did anything to keep her star from fading.
Note cards
I saw a post on CNN asking if anyone saw the forklift that brought in Palin's notecards.
I must admit, I laughed. Hard.
I was completely lost in Palin's responses, because she was overwhelmed by the soundbites shoved into her brain by the handlers. Those soundbites were convoluted and dyslexic.
I will replace a few words, but I will wholly quote from a funny, yet, simple movie, "Billy Madison."
"(Mrs. Palin), what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
SP's rehearsed comments
Palin had already revealed her lack of knowledge and qualifications. Whatever came out of her mouth wasn't hers; they were her handlers' words.