Kobach doesn't want gay marriage or Sharia law either
Barb ShellyHarassment of undocumented immigrants wasn’t the only stamp that Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach pressed into the Republican Party’s platform last week.
Kobach was in Tampa, using his lawyerly persuasions to convince the GOP’s platform committee to include a ban on U.S. courts considering foreign law traditions as part of its wish list. This, of course, is aimed at Islamic, or Sharia, law, and is aimed at whipping up fears about Muslims.
“We actually put a provision affecting Kansas statute this year,” he said, according to this account by TPM, “and I think it’s important for us to say foreign sources of law should not be used as part of common law decisions or statutory interpretations by judges in the lower state courts as well.”
Kansas should be so proud. Its Legislature banned Sharia law before most of the nation. Not that anyone was asking Kansas judges to employ Islamic law. But you never know.
Kobach also made news by objecting to a suggestion that the Republican Party drop its support for the Defense of Marriage Act, which outlaws same-sex marriage.
According to Think Progress, Kobach argued that “our government routinely judges situations where you might regard people completely affecting themselves, like, for example, the use of controlled substances, like polygamy that is voluntarily entered in to. We condemn those activities even though they are not hurting other people at least directly.”
So Kobach is equating same-sex relationships with drug abuse and polygamy, meaning he sees all three of those activities as problems to be “condemned.” What an insult to same-sex couples. So much for that big tent the Republican Party likes to talk about.
George Hunsucker
Northland
9 months agoSo tell us ms. shelly, are you in favor of women wearing burkas now??????
William R. Nelson
8 months, 4 weeks ago“Kobach doesn’t want gay marriage or Sharia law, either”
Not many people on this continent do, Mrs. Shelly. Many parts of Europe are renamed ‘europistan’ and frequently erupt in violence, and much of San Fransisco is as foul, morally bankrupt, and nasty as the floor of a NY taxi cab.
God bless you, Kris Kobach.
Mark Hastert
8 months, 4 weeks agoYa know William R.? You to get increasingly nasty in your anonymous posts. You appear to lack enough conviction to post in your own name and thus fear having you name associated with your deeds. Your post lack relevance and reflect badly on the legitimate (no pun intended) conservatives who try to express a salient point of view in these forums.
Mark Hastert
8 months, 4 weeks ago“Keep the faith William… mark posts daily drivel with little factual data…we just ignore….”
Aw… you can’t ignore me GH, I’m the highlight of your day. The other drones can’t get your pulse quickening like I do.
You’re a good case in point, GH. Since you’ve been posting in your own name you’re not nearly as mean spirited as you nom de plume was.
Phil Cardarella
8 months, 4 weeks agoLord, does this mean that we can no longer rely on the seven centuries of English common law that is the basis of our legal system? Kris is going to have to do some heavy lifting draftin statutes to cover all thos issues.
One thing about it, Kris is consistant about his enemies. There is no voter ID fraud. No one is using Sharia Law in the US. And, gays getting married actually hurts no one. Oh, yeah, and he wants to protect us against the law-abiding, patriotic kids who grew up as Americans but lack papers. So he does spend a lot of energy defending against non-existent threats.
Which is, I guess,the role of a DEMAGOGUE.
Seriously, no UMKC Alum should give the school a dime until it publicly apologizes for demeaning our degrees by having hired this guy as a law professor — and giving him credibility he does not deserve.
Mark Hastert
8 months, 4 weeks agoHey Buzz, check it out..you have a vivid imagination.
From the Official Republican Party …..”The Republican National Committee’s Minnesota voter fraud Web page announced, “There are no recent documented reports of vote fraud in this state.” And that’s with a recount of 2.9 million votes that took four months to scrutinize Minnesota’s election system.”
Wm Bond
8 months, 3 weeks agoWell , We don’t always get what we want in life do we. he needs to worry more about why he is worried about it.
Mark Hastert
8 months, 3 weeks agoWell Buzz that truly is miniscule The Minnesota post this month says the fraud is “Virtually non-existent” If you believe that .000052% is important enough to potentially disenfranchise as many as 5,000,000 voters nationwide then you’re a Republican through and through. “According to a study done by the Brennan Center For Justice, as many as 5 million voters will be disenfranchised by Voter ID laws passed in Republican states.”
Based on the population percentages that’s more than 100,000 disenfranchised Minnesotans to catch 200? Miniscule is right. That’s Kris Kobach’s Republican America for you. First this, then repeal of the 17th amendment and then We’ll let the wealthy elite make all the decisions for us.
JR Beillenhouser
8 months, 3 weeks agoMark - you previously said that there is no voter fraud. Buzz just proved you wrong. You are wrong about everything else as well. Nothing new there.
Matt Henry
8 months, 3 weeks agoAll you need to know about Barb Shelly is that she is comfortable quoting from Think Progress as a reliable source. She is so left-wing she thinks they are mainstream enough to be considered acceptable for this paper. What a joke. They are Soros-funded water carriers for the Democrat party, as radical on the left as anything the right has to offer. The are a political organization pushing a specific ideological agenda and yet Barb uses them as the source of her knowledge for what I’m sure she wants to seen as a “reasonable” piece. I know this is an opinion piece, but is she and / or the Star not the least bit concerned about being seen as an obvious radical? What would Barb’s reaction be to quotes from the more centrist Cato Institute or the Heritage Foundation? Oh the humanity!
This is the kind of piece that has made the Star a running joke and will ultimately lead to its demise as a fringe laughingstock like Newsweek.
Matt Henry
8 months, 3 weeks agoShoot, somehow I missed the link to Talking Points Memo the first time around. This author has quoted from two extreme-left political websites as her sources. If that is the type of work she wants to produce, she should go to one of those places that makes no bones about their bias. Again, I know this is an opinion piece, but would we say the same thing if she were blatantly taking her talking points from the right? Crimony, Fox News alone makes these people’s hair catch on fire.
Joke city.
Mark Hastert
8 months, 3 weeks ago“You call that minuscule. Really? ”
Yes I do call that miniscule. .000052% isn’t worth the cost of the cure. 99.9948% of the votes are NOT fraudulent. That’s less than the margin of error in the counting. That’s golden, germ free, statistically insignificant. You’re rationale is purely pretext. Kobach’s plan is like amputating an arm because you have a hang nail.
C’omon, at least be honest enough to admit that this is about voter suppression as other Republicans have in more candid moments. First it’s suppression and purging voters from the rolls, then the repeal of the 17th amendment (a movement already in progress), then it’ll be back to letting the state legislatures appoint the electoral college and we won’t be allow to vote at all.
That’s the vision of America that the monied elites have for us. The great unwashed rabble, be they Teas or OWS can’t be trusted to self govern.
I started re-reading Gatsby a few days ago and came across a passage I’d forgotten over the years, Nick spoke… “Americans, while occasionally willing to be serfs, have always been obstinate about being peasantry”
Ray Parker
Overland Park
8 months, 3 weeks agoPolygamists, polyamorists, pedophiles, incestors, and zoophiles are waiting their turn to demand an end to discrimination against their preferred perversions, and to demand their right to marry.
George Hunsucker
Northland
8 months, 3 weeks agoHe can just get a president like the big 0 to do an executive order and ignore laws… a “smart” lawyer like you should know that :-)
Phil Cardarella
8 months, 3 weeks agoActually, fellas, the issue is not whether there is any kind of vote fraud at all. There is a miniscule amount of either attempts to improperly vote or improperly voting. The present laws seem to have delt with them quite efficiently.
The issue is whether there is any IN PERSON, not that person voting fraud. I.E. A person claiming to be someone else. That is the ONLY vote fraud that these silly ID laws impact. And, they are the easiest to document IF THEY ever OCCUR because if a phony John Smith votes, the real John Smith will complain when he tries to and cannot.
DUH!
Which is why the total absence of such claims shows that this is simply a partisan voter suppression activity — just like the GOP admits when they think no one has a camera on.
JR Beillenhouser
8 months, 3 weeks agoDUH. Phil, is has already been shown that alot of dead people vote. That is why Florida wanted to purge those that were dead from their records. and the Obama justice dept tried to stop them.
The Supreme Court has ruled time and again that accurate vote records and voter identification are legal. End of story.
Dan Hartshorn
8 months, 3 weeks agoWhy should we want our government to support, legitimize, legalize, and normalize homosexual behavior? Men having sex with men is a public healthcare nightmare. Check the CDC fact sheets. So funny: in a day when politicians want to control the size of soft drink cups, the kind of fat in restaurant food, and the salt intake of people because of nutritional concerns, yet they are more than willing to support a public health care nightmare.
Mark Hastert
8 months, 3 weeks ago“You on the otherhand think it’s minuscule.”
No Buzzer, I think the pretext for disenfranchisement is minuscule and there is nothing sacred or patriotic in the GOP’s motives. It’s a blatant attempt to deny some voters their sacred right to vote. As I said before, you’d cut off an arm if you had a hang nail.
Being a believer in the law of unintended consequences I suspect that this saw will cut both ways and may cost Republicans as many votes as they hope to suppress. Either way it’s wrong.
George Hunsucker
Northland
8 months, 3 weeks agoyep ms. shelly, sharia law would be sooooooooooooooooooo good, wouldn’t it??
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/08/27/17-partygoers-beheaded-by-insurgents-in-afghanistan/?test=latestnews
Steven Fetter
66223
8 months, 3 weeks agoMark, Phil, and Barb are like Baghdad Bob. Deny reality and base your fantasy on the goodness of union bosses, precinct captains and community organizers. The vote is pure and above board in Philly, Chicago, the Bronx, and any other Democratic machine town. Chris Matthews, the tingle man himself, says just tell Governor Rendell how many votes you need and he will produce them.
There is no voter fraud. And Lance Armstrong is clean, Missouri went to the SEC for the academics, and Obama care will be liked once we understand it. Really
Mark Hastert
8 months, 3 weeks agoKeep selling it boys. Cut off your arm for a hang nail, burn your house down because you saw a mouse….
If you cared at all about the sacred constitution you’d be more worried about the legitimate votes you’re laws are stealing. If you were real fiscal conservatives you be concerned about the millions of tax payer dollars being spent to fix a minuscule problem. The lack of concern for the real issues is damning evidence of Kobach’s et. al. true motivations.
George Hunsucker
Northland
8 months, 3 weeks agoParadoxical Quote of The Day From Ben Stein:
“Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured… but not everyone must prove they are a citizen.”
Welcome to the big 0’s world….
Robert Copher
8 months, 3 weeks agoKobach = public enemy #1 Building his career with narcisistic behaviour intended to tear down and destroy our national government. I for one think he should be impeached and disbarred. He is the single most creator of hate and mistrust among Americans and the infighting amongst American citizens. His choices, for addressing non-issues, influenced by his political afilliation, have created the tension in this country and fueled extreme Republicans to resort to their default position of, give them their way or they will fight. When a Texas judge warns of civil law if Obama is re-elected, many who have voted Republican will seperate themselves from the party. Between, Kobach, Akin, Ryan, and Romney, the Republican party is now a complete basket of nuts that do not represent a national perspective or a national policy that will work. Even if you have never voted liberal, many will this year, just to avoid these characters and their narrowminded and antiquated policies.
George Hunsucker
Northland
8 months, 3 weeks agoRight Robert…. and 0’care is sooooooooooooooooo “national perspective”, whatever the hell that means….